Experiences with Micromonsta 2?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 186 posts since 12 Mar, 2011
Hello,
I'm considering getting Audiothingies Micromonsta 2.
I've been reading that this synth has great implementation of MPE.
In my use-case I'm recording MPE midi from Linnstrument to Ableton Live 11.1(currently) and output that recorded midi to synth. Does Micromonsta 2 have any bugs with this type of use? Hydrasynth does not work overly too well in this setup.
Thank you,
I'm considering getting Audiothingies Micromonsta 2.
I've been reading that this synth has great implementation of MPE.
In my use-case I'm recording MPE midi from Linnstrument to Ableton Live 11.1(currently) and output that recorded midi to synth. Does Micromonsta 2 have any bugs with this type of use? Hydrasynth does not work overly too well in this setup.
Thank you,
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- KVRAF
- 1577 posts since 2 Apr, 2015
The MM2 is a great synth, the MPE is very good. I would recommend it 10/10.
One thing is though that the Hydrasynth has some little bugs around MPE but really should work fine with Ableton. What problems are you seeing.
One thing is though that the Hydrasynth has some little bugs around MPE but really should work fine with Ableton. What problems are you seeing.
Bitwig, against the constitution.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 186 posts since 12 Mar, 2011
Thanks for reply,
Good to hear about the Micromonsta 2.
With Hydrasynth:
On polyphonic patches I'm getting that thing when 2 of the same notes are pressed and held, then when the other note is released, it sends note off to both.
Random fast glides when ever I have done polyphonic pitch bends. It sort of resets the pitch bend for a channel, then it works again, until I do pitch bends again. This is most noticable on played notes which I dont bend anywhere.
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- KVRAF
- 1577 posts since 2 Apr, 2015
I had forgot about the same note bug! The PB smoothing is also annoying which is what is giving you that fast glide from the previous notes PB on that channel.
The MM doesn’t have any of the bugs the HS has but it might have the PB smoothing, I will do a test...
The MM doesn’t have any of the bugs the HS has but it might have the PB smoothing, I will do a test...
Bitwig, against the constitution.
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- KVRist
- 238 posts since 2 Jul, 2017
My only gripe, which is possible to workaround using a couple of mod slots, is that you can't route aftertouch to sustain/level. No biggie.
Mine is for sale elsewhere; if you are UK based pm me.
Mine is for sale elsewhere; if you are UK based pm me.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 186 posts since 12 Mar, 2011
Hey!
Damn,
I'd need to pay pretty big customs and + extra vat, but I'm in the waiting list for the synth
How do you need to workaround to get volume increase?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 186 posts since 12 Mar, 2011
Good to hear!BobDog wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:20 am I had forgot about the same note bug! The PB smoothing is also annoying which is what is giving you that fast glide from the previous notes PB on that channel.
The MM doesn’t have any of the bugs the HS has but it might have the PB smoothing, I will do a test...
Okey good to know about the PB smoothing! Let me know if the results then
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- KVRAF
- 1577 posts since 2 Apr, 2015
Ok, got round to it in the end.Kalee wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:49 amGood to hear!BobDog wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:20 am I had forgot about the same note bug! The PB smoothing is also annoying which is what is giving you that fast glide from the previous notes PB on that channel.
The MM doesn’t have any of the bugs the HS has but it might have the PB smoothing, I will do a test...
Okey good to know about the PB smoothing! Let me know if the results then
I did the following test:
1. Put LS in ch per row
2. Set up init patch on MM with long release.
3. On a single row of the LL so we use the same channel on the MM, slid a note up, then waited for env to finish, play new lower note, no PB slide.
4. On a single row of the LL so we use the same channel on the MM, slid a note up, then in release stage, play new lower note, no PB slide.
So it works absolutely perfectly.
Bitwig, against the constitution.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 186 posts since 12 Mar, 2011
Thank you!BobDog wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:05 amOk, got round to it in the end.Kalee wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:49 amGood to hear!BobDog wrote: ↑Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:20 am I had forgot about the same note bug! The PB smoothing is also annoying which is what is giving you that fast glide from the previous notes PB on that channel.
The MM doesn’t have any of the bugs the HS has but it might have the PB smoothing, I will do a test...
Okey good to know about the PB smoothing! Let me know if the results then
I did the following test:
1. Put LS in ch per row
2. Set up init patch on MM with long release.
3. On a single row of the LL so we use the same channel on the MM, slid a note up, then waited for env to finish, play new lower note, no PB slide.
4. On a single row of the LL so we use the same channel on the MM, slid a note up, then in release stage, play new lower note, no PB slide.
So it works absolutely perfectly.
Wow yeehaa! Especially step 4 of your testing is even surprising, seeing how devices can be buggy with MPE!
Did you play Linnstrument directly to MM2 or through something? As far as I know, Ableton Live does not smooth midi, so everything should be perfect
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- KVRAF
- 1577 posts since 2 Apr, 2015
Was testing directly, Ableton would have messed the test up due to their madness of changing MPE channels rather than leaving good alone.
Grrhhhh.
Grrhhhh.
Bitwig, against the constitution.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 186 posts since 12 Mar, 2011
Alright,
I got the MM2 now:
Works beautifully with Linnstrument midi routed through Ableton Live + midi clock works well.
But as soon as I playback recorded midi the problems start, and failed to debug the issue so far. Maybe a bit more modern laptop could help.
I got the MM2 now:
Works beautifully with Linnstrument midi routed through Ableton Live + midi clock works well.
But as soon as I playback recorded midi the problems start, and failed to debug the issue so far. Maybe a bit more modern laptop could help.
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- KVRer
- 24 posts since 7 May, 2019
I'm thinking about a Micromonsta 2.
I am assuming you have to connect the LinnStrument through the MIDI IN port though, right? Micromonsta 2 only has USB-B so I assume it doesn't work in Host mode. And you need external power for the LinnStrument?
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- KVRian
- 808 posts since 24 Oct, 2022 from Abbotsford, British Columbia
No, you use the LinnStrument's MIDI OUT port to connect to the MicroMonsta 2's MIDI TRS Type-A port. The MicroMonsta 2's USB-B port is only for external power. The LinnStrument also needs external power either by using the USB-B port on both models, or by using the DC barrel jack on the 200.waraukaeru wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:10 am I'm thinking about a Micromonsta 2.
I am assuming you have to connect the LinnStrument through the MIDI IN port though, right? Micromonsta 2 only has USB-B so I assume it doesn't work in Host mode. And you need external power for the LinnStrument?