More or less yeah. But I was referring to the const uint8_t * buffer in the clap_event_midi_sysex
CLAP: The New Audio Plug-in Standard (by U-he, Bitwig and others)
- KVRian
- 1260 posts since 31 Dec, 2008
www.solostuff.net
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- KVRAF
- 4206 posts since 13 May, 2004
Little sum up of all the CLAP related news during the summer:
https://youtu.be/9dTO3r7YJQ0
https://youtu.be/9dTO3r7YJQ0
- KVRAF
- 35404 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Does Reaper have CLAP support yet?
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- KVRAF
- 15533 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
I don't believe so. I'd like to be wrong, but I've been looking for any news in the updates and haven't seen anything. It would be great news if someone told me that I must be blind and that I haven't been watching very closely.
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- addled muppet weed
- 106349 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- KVRian
- 1260 posts since 31 Dec, 2008
Last I checked (more than a month ago) the latest beta builds had working CLAP support. Check the “pre-releases” link here https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=271888ghettosynth wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:19 pmI don't believe so. I'd like to be wrong, but I've been looking for any news in the updates and haven't seen anything. It would be great news if someone told me that I must be blind and that I haven't been watching very closely.
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- KVRAF
- 15533 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Could be, it's not listed though. Or am I not only blind but search broken as well?S0lo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:39 pmLast I checked (more than a month ago) the latest beta builds had working CLAP support. Check the “pre-releases” link here https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=271888ghettosynth wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:19 pmI don't believe so. I'd like to be wrong, but I've been looking for any news in the updates and haven't seen anything. It would be great news if someone told me that I must be blind and that I haven't been watching very closely.
https://www.landoleet.org/whatsnew.txt
On Edit: It sez so here...
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php ... light=CLAP
I'll wait for it to make it into the main release. Shouldn't be long now then.
- KVRian
- 1260 posts since 31 Dec, 2008
The installer is there on that landoleet root url. I’ve tried it and debugged my own CLAP code with a previous version. Basic CLAP functions were working.ghettosynth wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:51 pmCould be, it's not listed though. Or am I not only blind but search broken as well?S0lo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:39 pmLast I checked (more than a month ago) the latest beta builds had working CLAP support. Check the “pre-releases” link here https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=271888ghettosynth wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:19 pm
I don't believe so. I'd like to be wrong, but I've been looking for any news in the updates and haven't seen anything. It would be great news if someone told me that I must be blind and that I haven't been watching very closely.
https://www.landoleet.org/whatsnew.txt
On Edit: It sez so here...
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php ... light=CLAP
I'll wait for it to make it into the main release. Shouldn't be long now then.
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- KVRAF
- 35404 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
OK yeah, me too thenghettosynth wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:51 pmCould be, it's not listed though. Or am I not only blind but search broken as well?S0lo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:39 pmLast I checked (more than a month ago) the latest beta builds had working CLAP support. Check the “pre-releases” link here https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=271888ghettosynth wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:19 pmI don't believe so. I'd like to be wrong, but I've been looking for any news in the updates and haven't seen anything. It would be great news if someone told me that I must be blind and that I haven't been watching very closely.
https://www.landoleet.org/whatsnew.txt
On Edit: It sez so here...
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php ... light=CLAP
I'll wait for it to make it into the main release. Shouldn't be long now then.
- KVRAF
- 1890 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
No. Pre-releases contain feature branches that may or may not make it into releases. The CLAP feature branch has been part of Reaper prereleases going back to 6.64.
CLAP Software Database: https://clapdb.tech. KVR Discussion Topic.
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- KVRAF
- 15533 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Good to know. Thanks. I'm still waiting for it to be in the main release before I spend any time with it.
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- KVRAF
- 2347 posts since 20 Oct, 2014
Surely this already was asked, but can't find it... What is the best approach to support CLAP, VST3 and AU, if you start from scratch? I mean, can CLAP be extended to VST3 or so? Do you base your plugin on CLAP and then extend to VST3, or vice versa? Is there a VST3-to-CLAP wrapper? Couldn't find any hint on the github CLAP page.
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- KVRist
- 179 posts since 19 Sep, 2007
- KVRAF
- 1890 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
I think Urs would have some great input on this. As I understand it, they will be using CLAP as their development target going forward, and wrapping it to VST2/3/AU.falkTX wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:42 pm I think best approach for multi-plugin support in a single codebase is to use a framework that deals with that for you.
You dont implement clap but that custom framework API instead (which typically is more limited than the full spec of each plugin format, purposefully).
If doing a raw CLAP plugin directly, trying to make that work in other formats will always have some features being "lost in translation". There are quite some aspects of CLAP that VST2/3 does not do, so your decision is actually to not have clap-specific features on the design/develop phase of the plugin (by using a framework) or use clap directly but lose features during the format conversion.
As for features that only CLAP supports: I don't think that's really an issue. The wrapper can support only the extensions that translate. Some features will just not be available. This allows you to take full advantage of CLAP features on CLAP hosts, while still allowing your plugins to be used on non-CLAP hosts.
Using a framework doesn't really solve the problem. Either the framework supports CLAP features, and the VSTs/AUs it generates will lack those features, or else the framework does NOT support CLAP features, and the resulting CLAP plugins will also lack those features.
One of CLAP's design goals was to be used as a development target that supported the superset of all existing formats currently available. It was designed to be wrapped to other formats.
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