Groove and Swing
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 97 posts since 1 Feb, 2021
Hello, got a noob Music Theory question here. I understand the basics of music theory but I don't understand what people mean when they use the terms 'Groove' or 'Swing'.
The context is I have seen a request, often, for a 'groove pool' for Bitwig and I've seen Polarity's video for a 'groove machine' preset. So, I'm asking with regards to the use of those concepts in DAWs like Live or Bitwig, and in the production of Electronic music, but I think this is maybe too general to be just a Bitwig subforum question.
Thanks in advance.
The context is I have seen a request, often, for a 'groove pool' for Bitwig and I've seen Polarity's video for a 'groove machine' preset. So, I'm asking with regards to the use of those concepts in DAWs like Live or Bitwig, and in the production of Electronic music, but I think this is maybe too general to be just a Bitwig subforum question.
Thanks in advance.
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- KVRAF
- 1631 posts since 10 Oct, 2018
Usually "groove" means that you make the downbeat a little longer than the upbeat. When the downbeat is significantly longer (like 2:1) than the upbeat we speak of "swing"
- KVRAF
- 10408 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Groove is very much about timing and feel, playing ahead of or behind the beat, sometimes including accents and emphasis, and is not well defined because it's very contextual. It's very much about playing with feel, rather than playing the notes "straight"/as written/hard quantized. Swing is generally more well defined as pushing the offbeat eighth notes (in 4/4 time) slightly behind the beat to give the rhythm more of a triplet feel and a bit more "push" from one beat to the next.
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- KVRist
- 172 posts since 5 Jan, 2022
Hello Karlatin!
There are 2 basic kinds of 8th notes in the world: straight 8ths and swung 8ths. A good example of straight 8ths is the bass part from "Every Breath You Take" where all the notes are equally spaced. A good example of swinging 8th notes is the melody of the Mickey Mouse theme.
There are 2 basic kinds of 8th notes in the world: straight 8ths and swung 8ths. A good example of straight 8ths is the bass part from "Every Breath You Take" where all the notes are equally spaced. A good example of swinging 8th notes is the melody of the Mickey Mouse theme.
- KVRAF
- 10408 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Sooooo, in other words….N 4 LIFE wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:49 am Hello Karlatin!
There are 2 basic kinds of 8th notes in the world: straight 8ths and swung 8ths. A good example of straight 8ths is the bass part from "Every Breath You Take" where all the notes are equally spaced. A good example of swinging 8th notes is the melody of the Mickey Mouse theme.
It must be from Sting if it ain’t got that swing?
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- KVRist
- 392 posts since 4 Aug, 2020 from Montreal, Canada
"Swing" does not have anything particularly to do with 8th notes. Also in OP's context, we're talking about a swing control that DAWs commonly offer (for example it's 50% to 78% in Logic) for the purpose of customizing the feel.N 4 LIFE wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:49 am Hello Karlatin!
There are 2 basic kinds of 8th notes in the world: straight 8ths and swung 8ths. A good example of straight 8ths is the bass part from "Every Breath You Take" where all the notes are equally spaced. A good example of swinging 8th notes is the melody of the Mickey Mouse theme.
Your wording sounds like "there are 2 basic genders in the world"