Nyquist EQ Feature Request, automatic gain compensation
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Hi,
I love the way Nyquist EQ sounds, but there's a severe problem with the usability/ergonomics due to lack of automatic gain compensation on the individual bands. It's very tedious trying to make quick A/B comparisons because of this.
Every single parametric EQ out there does this, why not Nyquist EQ as well?
Cheers,
Mike
I love the way Nyquist EQ sounds, but there's a severe problem with the usability/ergonomics due to lack of automatic gain compensation on the individual bands. It's very tedious trying to make quick A/B comparisons because of this.
Every single parametric EQ out there does this, why not Nyquist EQ as well?
Cheers,
Mike
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- KVRAF
- 5824 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
-1!
I use nyquist just because it does NOT have autogain make-up... think of it as a creative eq effect with a GUI very suitable for "live" stuff - especially DJing. There's poshifopit et al for every A/B need one might have
And FWIV, PLParEQ sounds better than others anyway
I use nyquist just because it does NOT have autogain make-up... think of it as a creative eq effect with a GUI very suitable for "live" stuff - especially DJing. There's poshifopit et al for every A/B need one might have
And FWIV, PLParEQ sounds better than others anyway
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
It's still a hindrance. It should have the option, for those (most likely the majority) who prefer it..jon wrote:I use nyquist just because it does NOT have autogain make-up
I don't want my EQs in control of the track volume, that's far from "creative shaping" as you like to put it. That's what the faders are for.
Nyquist EQ doesn't sound like posihfopit: a completely different algorithm to those 4 in posihfopit. That's one of the reasons I like it - for variety..jon wrote:There's poshifopit et al for every A/B need one might have
That's entirely subjective. Again, it sounds *different*, and while it provides the superior oversampling features, it simply doesn't work everywhere. Again, variety is good..jon wrote:And FWIV, PLParEQ sounds better than others anyway
To be honest I don't quite understand why such an important (and simple!) feature was left out in the first place, or the point of the hidden gain parameter options.
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- KVRAF
- 5824 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
that's why the smiley - this is way beyond objective!That's entirely subjective. Again, it sounds *different*, and while it provides the superior oversampling features, it simply doesn't work everywhere. Again, variety is good.
Optional autogain would be fine, I'd just leave it off. It's not always the sound, you know, but the way the effect can be used.
sunny days,
.jon
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Sunny days indeed! Bloody hot it is today.
Anyway, I wouldn't bother with feature request like this, but I happen to think Nyquist EQ is one of the absolute finest (free or commercial) digital EQs. No other EQ sounds quite like this. It would rule if it functioned like a normal parametric EQ.
Anyway, I wouldn't bother with feature request like this, but I happen to think Nyquist EQ is one of the absolute finest (free or commercial) digital EQs. No other EQ sounds quite like this. It would rule if it functioned like a normal parametric EQ.
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- KVRist
- 74 posts since 19 Jan, 2003 from New York
Hi Kingston,
Thanks for your feedback. Can you explain in more detail what you mean by automatic gain compensation on each band? I am not very experienced with using eq's, so please bear with me. I actually tried to make it ieasy to do A/B comparisons by lowering the gain if you boost a band, and raising the gain slightly if you cut a band. But you seem to be talking about something else... so enlighten me
Cheers,
Magnus
Thanks for your feedback. Can you explain in more detail what you mean by automatic gain compensation on each band? I am not very experienced with using eq's, so please bear with me. I actually tried to make it ieasy to do A/B comparisons by lowering the gain if you boost a band, and raising the gain slightly if you cut a band. But you seem to be talking about something else... so enlighten me
Cheers,
Magnus
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Ah, you made it perfectly clear now.magnus@se wrote:I actually tried to make it ieasy to do A/B comparisons by lowering the gain if you boost a band, and raising the gain slightly if you cut a band.
Based on this information, here's what I really was talking about:
please make an option to turn *off* the automatic gain when boosting or cutting bands. I know you meant to make it a time saver, but no other EQ does that, and standards are good. Compared to other EQs A/B comparisons and fast judgements during mixing are actually slower with this semi-automatic gain in Nyquist.
Thanks for listening.
Mike
- KVRian
- 1297 posts since 12 Nov, 2002 from Newcastle, UK
If you have a host that allows you to view all of Nyquist's VST parameters you can actually turn this automatic gain compensation off, I think the names are A:compen, B:compen and C:compen - there is also a master gain and a selection of three different filter types for each band, magnusA, magnusB and orfanidiKingston wrote:please make an option to turn *off* the automatic gain when boosting or cutting bands.
Here's an .fxp with the autogain thing turned off for each band :-
NyEQNoCompen.fxp
And one for the 5-band version :-
NyEQ5NoCompen.fxp
HTH, unless of course I've completely misunderstood the question/problem
Shif.
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- KVRAF
- 5824 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
thanks Shifrin!
I know I have that host
mmmmm more filter types
I know I have that host
mmmmm more filter types
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- KVRist
- 74 posts since 19 Jan, 2003 from New York
Heh, Shifrin said it all
But if happen to I get an unusual spark of inspiration some time, I'll make these parameters available in the GUI too.
But if happen to I get an unusual spark of inspiration some time, I'll make these parameters available in the GUI too.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
My humblest thankyous for pointing this out! I've always been aware of these hidden parameters but I thought they were mere gain sliders. RTFM Kingston!Shifrin wrote:Here's an .fxp with the autogain thing turned off for each band :-
NyEQNoCompen.fxp
And one for the 5-band version :-
NyEQ5NoCompen.fxp
HTH, unless of course I've completely misunderstood the question/problem
Shif.
Thanks, but in light of the revelation but Shif, I would consider this a non-issue.magnus@se wrote:Heh, Shifrin said it all
But if happen to I get an unusual spark of inspiration some time, I'll make these parameters available in the GUI too.
What a great EQ.
- KVRAF
- 10444 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
I'd love to have them available in the GUI for each band. Would increase the workflow a bit still. Nice EQ btw! Also, your compressor kicks some serious behind too!magnus@se wrote:Heh, Shifrin said it all
But if happen to I get an unusual spark of inspiration some time, I'll make these parameters available in the GUI too.
Cheers!
bManic
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot
- KVRAF
- 3842 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld
A little bump after a long time . I think this EQ is worth it.
Does anybody know what's the difference between the different EQ types: MagnusA, MagnusB and Orfanidi?
I know what's Orfanidi good for, but what about MagnusA and B?
Also, It would be nice to have a few little buttons on the "bypass" tracks for autogain, magnusA, magnusB, Orfanidi... like "G", "A", "B" and "O" eh? But since it haven't been updated in such a long time, I don't think it will happen.
Anyway, I love this EQ , so simple, nice sounding and effective. Thank you very much Magnus.
Cheers!
Does anybody know what's the difference between the different EQ types: MagnusA, MagnusB and Orfanidi?
I know what's Orfanidi good for, but what about MagnusA and B?
Also, It would be nice to have a few little buttons on the "bypass" tracks for autogain, magnusA, magnusB, Orfanidi... like "G", "A", "B" and "O" eh? But since it haven't been updated in such a long time, I don't think it will happen.
Anyway, I love this EQ , so simple, nice sounding and effective. Thank you very much Magnus.
Cheers!
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Jiddu Krishnamurti
- KVRAF
- 3842 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld
Nobody knows the difference between MagnusA and MagnusB types? The difference is quite subtle, so I'm not 100% sure what it is. I tried googling, but couldn't find any info on the subject. Strange.
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Jiddu Krishnamurti