Revalver 5 - Now by HeadRush

[ShawnMH]

I am glad to have seen this thread, as I was wondering how/where the upgrade path was yesterday.

Also downloaded the installer for ReValver 5, but DID'NT install it yet.

Am going to be on hold until I know what the upgrade involves. Possibly just going to live with ReValver 4 as is, since I like the older interface and program quite a bit, and do not want to muck things up.

[Aloysius]

The GUI is a bit fuzzy looking but overall, way better than the previous version.

I think all my previous purchases are showing up in v5. Not sure what I might need to upgrade to from v4.

[Magic Russ]

There's also a $49 upgrade for users of Revalver 4.

Do you know where to find that offer?

https://revalver.headrushfx.com
Scroll down 1/3 of the way

Or you can go here directly
https://revalver.headrushfx.com/bundles/

[Magic Russ]

I think the new HR Fenders sound pretty decent, but the Marshall models sound muddy with my guitar. The new effects tend to be pretty good. The Detune is a thing of beauty. However, there are a few exceptions. For example, the Multi Chorus is a bit brittle and the Shimmer is the worst version of that effect I have heard.

The thing that annoys me most is that a lot of the amps have a weird ambience to them. It's not overly pronounced, a sort of slapback/comb filter sound that can be hid with a bit of chorus or reverb. I'm also getting some weird volume fluctuations when sustaining. It sounds as if I had a very slow and very shallow tremolo engaged, even though I don't.

On trying it out again the next day that weird ambience is gone. And I was able to tweak some decent airy chorus sounds out of the multi-chorus.

The Shimmer is still awful though. I can't believe that this actually an algorithm that comes from a high end modeler. It sounds as if someone heard that the effect was generated by a combination of pitch shifting and reverb and decided that they were going to do nothing more than put a reverb after a pitch shifter.

[CapnLockheed]

There's also a $49 upgrade for users of Revalver 4.

Do you know where to find that offer?

https://revalver.headrushfx.com
Scroll down 1/3 of the way

Or you can go here directly
https://revalver.headrushfx.com/bundles/

Sorry, but that does not say anything about existing ReValver FOUR customers.
And regardless of that, i did not purchase any kind of bundle. Ever. I have always
owned a full license since V1.

"The complete collection of Headrush amps, stomps and effects for existing ReValver bundle customers."

I'm not about to shell out $49 till I know for sure what I'd be getting and that my licence for R4 will be restored....as support has already stated it should be. I already got screwed by jumping the gun once not about to make that mistake again. I will wait for confirmation from support.

[morelia]

I found the upgrade thanks to someone here. But likewise, it is unclear what you are buying. They've really gone with the "trust us" method of retail. I'll wait for some clarity.

There's also a $49 upgrade for users of Revalver 4.

Do you know where to find that offer?

https://revalver.headrushfx.com
Scroll down 1/3 of the way

Or you can go here directly
https://revalver.headrushfx.com/bundles/

Sorry, but that does not say anything about existing ReValver FOUR customers.
And regardless of that, i did not purchase any kind of bundle. Ever. I have always
owned a full license since V1.

"The complete collection of Headrush amps, stomps and effects for existing ReValver bundle customers."

I'm not about to shell out $49 till I know for sure what I'd be getting and that my licence for R4 will be restored....as support has already stated it should be. I already got screwed by jumping the gun once not about to make that mistake again. I will wait for confirmation from support.

[electro]

Crowded AMP Sim Market. What Amps and Stomps does Revalver get right?

[xphen0m]

There's also a $49 upgrade for users of Revalver 4.

Do you know where to find that offer?

https://revalver.headrushfx.com
Scroll down 1/3 of the way

Or you can go here directly
https://revalver.headrushfx.com/bundles/

I checked the links and I got an email stating a $49 upgrade for R4 users. Is there somewhere we have to be logged in, because I see no mention of it anywhere on those sites.

[guitarzan]

There's also a $49 upgrade for users of Revalver 4.

Do you know where to find that offer?

https://revalver.headrushfx.com
Scroll down 1/3 of the way

Or you can go here directly
https://revalver.headrushfx.com/bundles/

I checked the links and I got an email stating a $49 upgrade for R4 users. Is there somewhere we have to be logged in, because I see no mention of it anywhere on those sites.

If you go to that “BUNDLES” link:
https://revalver.headrushfx.com/bundles/
and scroll to the $49.99 “HEADRUSH” bundle, the description says:

The complete collection of Headrush amps, stomps and effects for existing ReValver bundle customers

So that must be the one I guess?

[CapnLockheed]

Headrush/ReValver support has been extremely responsive helpful in sorting my issue with R4. I'm totally up and running again. The Dynamic Duo Michael & Jose are at the healm of ReValver5 software. I assume the Headrush pedalboard division is a seperate crew as they were already up and running before inMusic/Headrush brought AMR/ReValver on board.

I see someone has started another ReValver thread in "Effects". Mostly whinging going on there and complaining about the USB licensing. I get that but like iLok and Syncrosoft that scheme does have some upsides. Portability for one. And ReValver's USB licesensing does not require a PROPIETARY dongle like the other two aformentioned schemes. In fact, if you're already using one of those you can just tack ReValver onto it and not need to take up another USB port. Also one BIG improvement in R5....the end user can now unlock their own USB stick and change it right within the program. That's a major improvement over having to get support to do it. And speaking of support, that was another subject of whinging. Now I know that support was sluggish and development was slow while Peavey owned ReValver that is NOT the case now. One user went so far as to compare ReValver support to IK support.....this coming from a user that has not even tried to communicate with the current support team. I'm here to tell you R5/Headrush is NOT IK. IK support has and probably always will blow chunks. That is definitely not the case with the current ReValver team.

I agree that the rollout is a little cloudy, but that is so often the case. There was probably immense pressure from further up the inMusic food chain to get R5 software out the door in time for the holidays. The dust is already starting to settle and I know the team is working hard to make the experience the best they can.....given whatever constraints they are under from the bigwigs. I was very upset and frustrated initially but I couldn't be more pleased with the help and support I received.

As to who exactly benefits from the $49 "bundle" upgrade for existing "bundle" owners.....I'm still not exactly sure. I didn't ask as I was more concerened with
gettin R4 back up and running. Personally, I no longer need an answer to that
question. But if you'd like to find out, just create a Headrush account and ask
support:

https://support.headrushfx.com/en/support/login

[GreyLion]

As to who exactly benefits from the $49 "bundle" upgrade for existing "bundle" owners.....I'm still not exactly sure.

https://support.headrushfx.com/en/support/login

Hey, Cap!

I did a comparison of the listed stomps and amps and such, which you can find if you click through for details on each bundle here:

https://revalver.headrushfx.com/product ... sh-bundle/

As far as I can tell, the Headrush bundle is the only thing required for us OG R4 bundle owners to get complete. It would be good if they'd have comparison charts on the site. I think they're killing, or at least delaying, some sales by not having that explicit info up, in detail. A chart wouldn't be hard to put together.

On the whingeing, yeah, the whole 'USB key is evil' thing is way overblown, imho. As it always is here.

OTOH, you got multiply vocal upthread when it killed your R4 install.

I've had zero problems with installing, authorizing, and using the software myself. I just don't have enough time with it yet to have a real opinion about whether it's competitive in today's market, or whether it offers something that others don't.

I hope for the best, and I really want them to succeed.

If it doesn't do VST3, though, that's something they need to fix ASAP.

[CapnLockheed]

If it doesn't do VST3, though, that's something they need to fix ASAP.

I agree. That is a MUST these days with so many plugins being released as VST3 only.
And while it means nothing to me, I'm sure Headrush hardware owners would like to see R5 eventually integrate with the hardware and be able to act as an editor for, and exchange presets with, the pedalboards. I remember that a dedicated hardware controller was something we were all wishing for during the Peavey years. Looking at the website, the wording is not clear if the $49 "Headrush" bundle is just for existing owners of the smaller "Starter" & "Standard" bundles or if it also includes R4 owners. So I've asked them to clear that up. And the USB licensing is WAY improved in R5. The end user now has the ability to release their current USB device and select a new one right in R5's License Manager. No more having to bug support and wait....that's a big plus IMHO. And as to the whining about giving up another port....who doesn'y already have some USB device plugged in? It's not like Syncrosoft or iKok where that IS the case....and why I don't use them. And I really don't care about the Ellefson bundle as I'm neither a bass player or a metal dude. I tried to explain to one of the whingers that it is both a separate product and a seperate licsensing deal between Peavey and Dave Ellefson so it CAN'T be transferred over but apparently this member is too either too clueless to understand such a simple explanation or they don't understand English well. I'm guessing the former.......LOL!!

I don't know if any improvements have been made to ACT in R5. But as soon as I get a chance I want to do fair shootout between ACT, Tonex & NAM. ReValver was sooo far ahead of the curve at one time. I hope inMusic/Headrush gets behind it's R&D better
than Peavey did.

In any case.....I'll put a bug in their ear regarding VST3 compatibility. That's something we all need!! It's definitely not there now. I tried scanning my VST3 folder in R5. It saw them, but blacklisted them so yeah...not there yet.

Cheers.....CL

[guitarzan]

If it doesn't do VST3, though, that's something they need to fix ASAP.

I agree. That is a MUST these days with so many plugins being released as VST3 only.

Yeah, they really should’ve taken care of that YEARS ago. VST3 has been around since 2008.

I tried to explain to one of the whingers that it is both a separate product and a seperate licsensing deal between Peavey and Dave Ellefson so it CAN'T be transferred over but apparently this member is too either too clueless to understand such a simple explanation or they don't understand English well. I'm guessing the former.......LOL!

Maybe I have it wrong, but my reading of their latest post regarding that Artist Pack was that it should be available now because they now apparently have at least some of it in their ReValver 5 account: “Also, the Eleffson gear should be there now. I don't recall what it included but I have the HANGAR18 LH1000 amp and 3 cabs”.

I believe the whinging may have started when someone freaked out about the ReValver 5 upgrade borking their ReValver 4 install… something about “Blackmailing me into buying ReValver 5 is not a good way to start a relatioship with a client. And I thought Peavey was bad”, but who know how this stuff really gets started

[hotmitts]

One user went so far as to compare ReValver support to IK support.....this coming from a user that has not even tried to communicate with the current support team. I'm here to tell you R5/Headrush is NOT IK. IK support has and probably always will blow chunks. That is definitely not the case with the current ReValver team.
https://support.headrushfx.com/en/support/login

Actually I did try and contact the support team, and I didn't compare the support team to IK.
I was referring to the Dongle requirement which I do think is a bad idea and may lose them customers. I think it's causing problems for existing customers, who have bought and supported the product and should be changed. In that way I do think it's not great for customer service or customer relations.
leaving insulting remarks about others on forums isn't clever

[morelia]

If it doesn't do VST3, though, that's something they need to fix ASAP.

I agree. That is a MUST these days with so many plugins being released as VST3 only.

Yeah, they really should’ve taken care of that YEARS ago. VST3 has been around since 2008.

I tried to explain to one of the whingers that it is both a separate product and a seperate licsensing deal between Peavey and Dave Ellefson so it CAN'T be transferred over but apparently this member is too either too clueless to understand such a simple explanation or they don't understand English well. I'm guessing the former.......LOL!

Maybe I have it wrong, but my reading of their latest post regarding that Artist Pack was that it should be available now because they now apparently have at least some of it in their ReValver 5 account: “Also, the Eleffson gear should be there now. I don't recall what it included but I have the HANGAR18 LH1000 amp and 3 cabs”.

I believe the whinging may have started when someone freaked out about the ReValver 5 upgrade borking their ReValver 4 install… something about “Blackmailing me into buying ReValver 5 is not a good way to start a relatioship with a client. And I thought Peavey was bad”, but who know how this stuff really gets started

R5 has a vst3 version. Are some people not seeing it? Or are they talking about R4?