LfoTool vs Trackspacer
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GraphiteSquirrel GraphiteSquirrel https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=623459
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 19 posts since 24 Aug, 2023
Which is the best at Sidechain compression?
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 1928 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Pretty sure those are totally different approaches.
LFOTool (Shaperbox 3 is far better but not free) is manually sculpting the sound, like imposing a volume envelope on top of the audio.
Trackspacer is sampling all the frequencies within a window you specify and then subtracting them in the amount specified from the target audio.
LFOTool (Shaperbox 3 is far better but not free) is manually sculpting the sound, like imposing a volume envelope on top of the audio.
Trackspacer is sampling all the frequencies within a window you specify and then subtracting them in the amount specified from the target audio.
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GraphiteSquirrel GraphiteSquirrel https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=623459
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 19 posts since 24 Aug, 2023
What do you recommend for side chain compression for kick to bass?vitocorleone123 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:32 pm Pretty sure those are totally different approaches.
LFOTool (Shaperbox 3 is far better but not free) is manually sculpting the sound, like imposing a volume envelope on top of the audio.
Trackspacer is sampling all the frequencies within a window you specify and then subtracting them in the amount specified from the target audio.
Would you use the same tool to make instruments like synths (or whatever your genre is) duck/dodge vocals?
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
- KVRAF
- 1928 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Imposing an envelope like LFOTool or ShaperBox 3 is very effective and very easy if you have regular timed kicks/ducking and is easy to get that sound of ducking if you want it more pronounced.GraphiteSquirrel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:33 pmWhat do you recommend for side chain compression for kick to bass?vitocorleone123 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:32 pm Pretty sure those are totally different approaches.
LFOTool (Shaperbox 3 is far better but not free) is manually sculpting the sound, like imposing a volume envelope on top of the audio.
Trackspacer is sampling all the frequencies within a window you specify and then subtracting them in the amount specified from the target audio.
Would you use the same tool to make instruments like synths (or whatever your genre is) duck/dodge vocals?
Something more dynamic would be to use a compressor with side chaining, but can be harder to dial in. Works better perhaps for irregular beats. Your DAW compressor(s) can do this.
Anything with spectral analysis is generally aiming at being more transparent, so it’s be harder to get that pumping audio sound.
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- KVRAF
- 5116 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Duck has a sidechain input and group feature.vitocorleone123 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:04 amImposing an envelope like LFOTool or ShaperBox 3 is very effective and very easy if you have regular timed kicks/ducking and is easy to get that sound of ducking if you want it more pronounced.GraphiteSquirrel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:33 pmWhat do you recommend for side chain compression for kick to bass?vitocorleone123 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:32 pm Pretty sure those are totally different approaches.
LFOTool (Shaperbox 3 is far better but not free) is manually sculpting the sound, like imposing a volume envelope on top of the audio.
Trackspacer is sampling all the frequencies within a window you specify and then subtracting them in the amount specified from the target audio.
Would you use the same tool to make instruments like synths (or whatever your genre is) duck/dodge vocals?
Something more dynamic would be to use a compressor with side chaining, but can be harder to dial in. Works better perhaps for irregular beats. Your DAW compressor(s) can do this.
Anything with spectral analysis is generally aiming at being more transparent, so it’s be harder to get that pumping audio sound.
MuLab of course
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GraphiteSquirrel GraphiteSquirrel https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=623459
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 19 posts since 24 Aug, 2023
Thanks for this and thanks everyone else.vitocorleone123 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:04 amImposing an envelope like LFOTool or ShaperBox 3 is very effective and very easy if you have regular timed kicks/ducking and is easy to get that sound of ducking if you want it more pronounced.GraphiteSquirrel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:33 pmWhat do you recommend for side chain compression for kick to bass?vitocorleone123 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:32 pm Pretty sure those are totally different approaches.
LFOTool (Shaperbox 3 is far better but not free) is manually sculpting the sound, like imposing a volume envelope on top of the audio.
Trackspacer is sampling all the frequencies within a window you specify and then subtracting them in the amount specified from the target audio.
Would you use the same tool to make instruments like synths (or whatever your genre is) duck/dodge vocals?
Something more dynamic would be to use a compressor with side chaining, but can be harder to dial in. Works better perhaps for irregular beats. Your DAW compressor(s) can do this.
Anything with spectral analysis is generally aiming at being more transparent, so it’s be harder to get that pumping audio sound.
- KVRAF
- 15119 posts since 13 Nov, 2012
In my use they are different tools for different jobs.
Both are excellent.
Both are excellent.
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- KVRist
- 363 posts since 1 Jul, 2023
The free MTremolo from Melda is also good at this. I don't think you can save presets unless you pay, but some of the actual side chain presets in the free version are perfect, and one can just save them in an FX chain.