LfoTool vs Trackspacer

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Which is the best at Sidechain compression?

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Pretty sure those are totally different approaches.

LFOTool (Shaperbox 3 is far better but not free) is manually sculpting the sound, like imposing a volume envelope on top of the audio.

Trackspacer is sampling all the frequencies within a window you specify and then subtracting them in the amount specified from the target audio.

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vitocorleone123 wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:32 pm Pretty sure those are totally different approaches.

LFOTool (Shaperbox 3 is far better but not free) is manually sculpting the sound, like imposing a volume envelope on top of the audio.

Trackspacer is sampling all the frequencies within a window you specify and then subtracting them in the amount specified from the target audio.
What do you recommend for side chain compression for kick to bass?

Would you use the same tool to make instruments like synths (or whatever your genre is) duck/dodge vocals?

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GraphiteSquirrel wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:33 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:32 pm Pretty sure those are totally different approaches.

LFOTool (Shaperbox 3 is far better but not free) is manually sculpting the sound, like imposing a volume envelope on top of the audio.

Trackspacer is sampling all the frequencies within a window you specify and then subtracting them in the amount specified from the target audio.
What do you recommend for side chain compression for kick to bass?

Would you use the same tool to make instruments like synths (or whatever your genre is) duck/dodge vocals?
Imposing an envelope like LFOTool or ShaperBox 3 is very effective and very easy if you have regular timed kicks/ducking and is easy to get that sound of ducking if you want it more pronounced.

Something more dynamic would be to use a compressor with side chaining, but can be harder to dial in. Works better perhaps for irregular beats. Your DAW compressor(s) can do this.

Anything with spectral analysis is generally aiming at being more transparent, so it’s be harder to get that pumping audio sound.

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vitocorleone123 wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:04 am
GraphiteSquirrel wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:33 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:32 pm Pretty sure those are totally different approaches.

LFOTool (Shaperbox 3 is far better but not free) is manually sculpting the sound, like imposing a volume envelope on top of the audio.

Trackspacer is sampling all the frequencies within a window you specify and then subtracting them in the amount specified from the target audio.
What do you recommend for side chain compression for kick to bass?

Would you use the same tool to make instruments like synths (or whatever your genre is) duck/dodge vocals?
Imposing an envelope like LFOTool or ShaperBox 3 is very effective and very easy if you have regular timed kicks/ducking and is easy to get that sound of ducking if you want it more pronounced.

Something more dynamic would be to use a compressor with side chaining, but can be harder to dial in. Works better perhaps for irregular beats. Your DAW compressor(s) can do this.

Anything with spectral analysis is generally aiming at being more transparent, so it’s be harder to get that pumping audio sound.
Duck has a sidechain input and group feature.
MuLab of course :D

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Gatekeeper is really good for this (and a host of other great gating/choppy FX)

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Flux Mini is a good free option

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vitocorleone123 wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:04 am
GraphiteSquirrel wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:33 pm
vitocorleone123 wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:32 pm Pretty sure those are totally different approaches.

LFOTool (Shaperbox 3 is far better but not free) is manually sculpting the sound, like imposing a volume envelope on top of the audio.

Trackspacer is sampling all the frequencies within a window you specify and then subtracting them in the amount specified from the target audio.
What do you recommend for side chain compression for kick to bass?

Would you use the same tool to make instruments like synths (or whatever your genre is) duck/dodge vocals?
Imposing an envelope like LFOTool or ShaperBox 3 is very effective and very easy if you have regular timed kicks/ducking and is easy to get that sound of ducking if you want it more pronounced.

Something more dynamic would be to use a compressor with side chaining, but can be harder to dial in. Works better perhaps for irregular beats. Your DAW compressor(s) can do this.

Anything with spectral analysis is generally aiming at being more transparent, so it’s be harder to get that pumping audio sound.
Thanks for this and thanks everyone else.

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In my use they are different tools for different jobs.
Both are excellent.

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The free MTremolo from Melda is also good at this. I don't think you can save presets unless you pay, but some of the actual side chain presets in the free version are perfect, and one can just save them in an FX chain.

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