64bit daw to replace fl studio
- KVRist
- 197 posts since 20 Jan, 2014 from Latvia
Yeh, i trayed Fl after 3 years, but not success. Set all my settings, but cannot work. Crashing, cpu overloading (yes with ASSIO), again crashing, and again crashing
Tested Bitwig Studio side by side with FL.
Loaded multiple Spire 1.1 vst with the same preset and midi clip.
FL-Studio cpu overload 12-14 tracks
Bitwig Studio cpu overload - 19-21 tracks
I love FL-Studio GUI and all small things, but cannot work, it's very unstable. (I tried a demo version)
Big + for Bitwig is vst PLUG-IN SANDBOXING!!! If crashing some vst, BWS still running, just refresh plugin state and whola
I recommended to try a Bitwig Studio demo http://www.bitwig.com/en/bitwig-studio.html
Tested Bitwig Studio side by side with FL.
Loaded multiple Spire 1.1 vst with the same preset and midi clip.
FL-Studio cpu overload 12-14 tracks
Bitwig Studio cpu overload - 19-21 tracks
I love FL-Studio GUI and all small things, but cannot work, it's very unstable. (I tried a demo version)
Big + for Bitwig is vst PLUG-IN SANDBOXING!!! If crashing some vst, BWS still running, just refresh plugin state and whola
I recommended to try a Bitwig Studio demo http://www.bitwig.com/en/bitwig-studio.html
Mac OSX, Bitwig Studio, Spire, Massive
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7402 posts since 17 Feb, 2005
Bitwig is cool, but I don't think it has matured enough. It still has some ways to go, so I keep an eye on it.
Is the Live workflow easy to learn coming from FL? Someone educate me on these daws!
Is the Live workflow easy to learn coming from FL? Someone educate me on these daws!
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- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 11 Sep, 2015
in Live, your Channel Rack will be gone, and your instruments and automation will reside directly in tracks, that's the main change. Patterns are called Clips and work similarly. Live's Racks are also quite similar to Patcher.
Generally speaking, FL allows you to do more things, but also involves many workarounds and setup time during the project... whereas Live is faster, more immediate.
Inserting FL in Live by either Rewire or VST works quite well.
Generally speaking, FL allows you to do more things, but also involves many workarounds and setup time during the project... whereas Live is faster, more immediate.
Inserting FL in Live by either Rewire or VST works quite well.
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
you could demo reason 9, but i have no clue how important vst is to you. Might as well give it a whirl anyway, to experienced true stability!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7402 posts since 17 Feb, 2005
Thanks. I know there will be differences, and FL studio is pretty cool for automation. How would you compare it?acYm wrote:in Live, your Channel Rack will be gone, and your instruments and automation will reside directly in tracks, that's the main change. Patterns are called Clips and work similarly. Live's Racks are also quite similar to Patcher.
Generally speaking, FL allows you to do more things, but also involves many workarounds and setup time during the project... whereas Live is faster, more immediate.
Inserting FL in Live by either Rewire or VST works quite well.
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- KVRAF
- 3186 posts since 18 Mar, 2008
MuLab maybe, it's fun and lack similar stuff overall (serious audio recording, editing and mixing)
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here? ShawnG
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- KVRist
- 230 posts since 16 Nov, 2012
FL rocks with automation and the different curve types, ability to go into menu and create automation for last tweaked parameter is cool too. Ableton has a similar automation workflow minus the advanced curves in FL, in Ableton you can create automation lanes instead.camsr wrote:Thanks. I know there will be differences, and FL studio is pretty cool for automation. How would you compare it?acYm wrote:in Live, your Channel Rack will be gone, and your instruments and automation will reside directly in tracks, that's the main change. Patterns are called Clips and work similarly. Live's Racks are also quite similar to Patcher.
Generally speaking, FL allows you to do more things, but also involves many workarounds and setup time during the project... whereas Live is faster, more immediate.
Inserting FL in Live by either Rewire or VST works quite well.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7402 posts since 17 Feb, 2005
Ok so it's pretty standard. Is there a way to use audio as a vst parameter modulator? Because it would be easy to shape those more complicated curves with a plugin although latency might be a problem.julioelgenio wrote: FL rocks with automation and the different curve types, ability to go into menu and create automation for last tweaked parameter is cool too. Ableton has a similar automation workflow minus the advanced curves in FL, in Ableton you can create automation lanes instead.
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- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 11 Sep, 2015
gotta have Live Suite (or at least Max4Live) to get that kind of functionality (external modulators and such) but it can be done yes.
overall, modulation and automation is definitely a field in which FL reigns supreme.
overall, modulation and automation is definitely a field in which FL reigns supreme.
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- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 11 Sep, 2015
you can save your Instrument/FX Racks as templates, just like saving Patchers
a Live project acts as a kind of big meta-preset, you can go pick elements from other projects and bring them in just like anything else from the browser
a Live project acts as a kind of big meta-preset, you can go pick elements from other projects and bring them in just like anything else from the browser
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- KVRAF
- 1524 posts since 6 Nov, 2012
Live will be easy to learn. You lose native internal controllers like LFO tool, envelope follower, etc. You just resort to half assed tools through its API that costs you money $199 lol. And its piano roll is bare bone. It is prone to crash when using vst but it has project recovery feature. The others are well made.
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- KVRAF
- 4508 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
check http://isotonikstudios.com/isotonik/mod ... ies/smart/ if u need those advanced curvesjulioelgenio wrote: FL rocks with automation and the different curve types, ability to go into menu and create automation for last tweaked parameter is cool too. Ableton has a similar automation workflow minus the advanced curves in FL, in Ableton you can create automation lanes instead.
it's about Smart 3 so outdated but shows the concept
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da-EEIGlq0Y
(worth to check the other devices in the modular series https://ask.audio/articles/review-isoto ... ve-plugins )
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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- KVRAF
- 4007 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Hamilton, New Zealand
Reaper with the following reaperset:camsr wrote:I'm not enthusiastic about using FL studio in the future. What would be the most painless replacement, and why?
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=152012
Makes getting into reaper fairly easy, then over time your can acquaint yourself with the more advanced features as you require them.
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