Anyone notice the DAW affects the type of music you create?
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- Banned
- 3946 posts since 25 Jan, 2009
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- KVRist
- 107 posts since 28 Aug, 2014
I chime into this useless thread because I'm bored.
Since I do not compose the music entirely beforehand and work with many electronic instruments and a lot of MIDI directly in the DAW, the DAW definitely influences the type of music I create. Even though I mostly have the things I want in my head, the DAW is part of the creative process, sometimes changes things, makes harder or easier, and generally influences the outcome. The tools of a musician and composer have a sometimes small, sometimes huge impact on the outcome, depending on their strengths and limitations. Kind of obvious.
Since I do not compose the music entirely beforehand and work with many electronic instruments and a lot of MIDI directly in the DAW, the DAW definitely influences the type of music I create. Even though I mostly have the things I want in my head, the DAW is part of the creative process, sometimes changes things, makes harder or easier, and generally influences the outcome. The tools of a musician and composer have a sometimes small, sometimes huge impact on the outcome, depending on their strengths and limitations. Kind of obvious.
- KVRian
- 976 posts since 16 Jan, 2012 from UK
actually i would say, yes it does influence the output not in terms of sound so much as with structure. some progs are loop based, some are linear, non-linear, modular... so the answer to the OP is yes, it does. should not influence the sound or melodic content so much...
- KVRAF
- 3076 posts since 25 Apr, 2011
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- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
I'ù using my Daws ( Mainly Cubase) in the same way I would use a 24 track Studer machine, except it's much easier to edit tracks, and somewhat harder to get a good sound rather than with a good analog tape machine + good hardware mixer couple. So, no it doesnt affect my workflow at all
Should a daw be only pattern based for example, and prevent me to record in this stupid old fashioned linear way, it's simply not for me.
Should a daw be only pattern based for example, and prevent me to record in this stupid old fashioned linear way, it's simply not for me.
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- KVRer
- 11 posts since 1 Jun, 2016
As a Live user I envy those who get to use piano roll in Fl Studiocore wrote:For one, I find MIDI editing in FL Studio much easier & comprehensive.Zexila wrote:So very similar workflow like Live, which makes me wonder what OP is gaining with it (FL) over it (Live).inkwarp wrote:yes it is. but it's own version of an arrangement view, the "playlist" is going from strength to strength in recent versions. it also now has a 'performance ' mode which you can trigger clips in various ways. i am still trying to get across it, but seems very good.Zexila wrote:
Isn't FL pattern based too?
the other thing worth mentioning also, you can run FL as a plugin ( as well as rewire) so i am increasingly using it inside ableton and reaper. : )
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- Banned
- 13 posts since 27 May, 2016
That last part is very accurate.Numanoid wrote:I think a user should select the DAW best geared toward the music that user want to make, not the other way around.Kinh wrote:Have you noticed the music you create and especially songs sound different depending on what DAW you use? Or am I just going crazy?
If the DAW "dictates" which music is made, it seems the user didn't know from the start what music s/he wanted to make
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ethermusic1981 ethermusic1981 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=367267
- KVRist
- 131 posts since 29 Sep, 2015
MarlaPodolski wrote:Completely disagree. The reply statement has no basis in fact(s). It's a completely subjective remark. No facts offered as support, because as a subjective opinion there are none. It's not logical in any way, either.chk071 wrote:If the DAW really changes the way you make music, or even affects what kind of music you're creating, you're doing something wrong.Numanoid wrote:I think a user should select the DAW best geared toward the music that user want to make, not the other way around.Kinh wrote:Have you noticed the music you create and especially songs sound different depending on what DAW you use?
Musicians and others who use DAWs are mainly all artists. To be an effective and high-quality artist, one needs to be sensitive to and able to be influenced by everything in one's environment , e.g. -- the paintings of an oil painter using a pallet knife only to apply the paint will look significantly different than the same artist using brush only. The tools used always affect the results obtained in some way, whether extremely obvious or not. This is such a fundamental law it is even true for chimpanzees using twigs to remove termites from mounds.
The DAW can also be considered and used as one medium (along with the more commonly thought-of media -- the musical instruments themselves) in the creation and delivery of the message -- the music.
Starting to sound at least vaguely familiar? Marshall McLuhan established almost 50 years ago that in our highly technological, post-modern age that "The medium is the message." So this is not even anything new.
Anyone with common sense would expect that anything used to help create any sort of product would have some degree of effect on the outcome and quality of the product. Considering that many of us DAW users have two or more DAWs for precisely this reason, along with certain other sometimes related benefits, one might be safe to assume that most of us figured out this odd physics thing called "cause and effect" before we spent hundreds more on further DAW software.
Maybe it's just my imagination, but I seem to find more and more goofy, oddball and just plain false information each time I swing by this place trying to find out about new products and items on sale. Either I've made some kind of realization or else I somehow never noticed most of this silliness before. Which could it be?
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ethermusic1981 ethermusic1981 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=367267
- KVRist
- 131 posts since 29 Sep, 2015
No need to guess, it's definitely gotten better. FL 12 is a powerhouse.acYm wrote:ooh I don't know about that just yet... it's getting better I guess.Kinh wrote:(Im contemplating taking the FL route now they've killed the bugs.)
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ethermusic1981 ethermusic1981 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=367267
- KVRist
- 131 posts since 29 Sep, 2015
Got to agree with MarlaPodolski on this one. Sorry, losers (whyte, I'm especially looking at you... )
- KVRAF
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Earlier I felt that DAW kinda decided for me what genre I output Now that I've found my direction, I decide what music I make Though I've noticed that some genres "just happen" more easily is some spesific DAWs. That's why I love bitwig. It's a neat mixture of many DAWs so what ever workflow I'm looking for, I can find it in BWS <3