Why doesn't Sound on Sound mag. have an FL Studio section?

[LawrenceF]

Tour bus announcer: "And now we'll make a left turn and visit Disneyland once again... "

"FL Studio 12 is going to blow everything else out of the water"

[D.H. Miltz]

There's still actual discussion going on here, so no more cats, please.

[james0tucson]

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Seriously? It would kill you to answer my question somewhere in the 500 words you use to avoid answering? It's weird, man. It was an honest question and I don't get why you wouldn't just say. No longer interested.

[pdxindy]

comparing Aviccii to mozart? really? classics of their generation?

Don't misquote me. I was making the point that 'entering notes into a Piano roll' is exactly what Mozart did. Re Avicii and classics? 474+ Million views shows he is doing something right.

more than 200 years later and Mozart is a household name.

how many will remember Avicii just 20 years from now?

[Hink]

end of story.

Seriously? It would kill you to answer my question somewhere in the 500 words you use to avoid answering? It's weird, man. It was an honest question and I don't get why you wouldn't just say. No longer interested.

look dude you have trolled me for years, you put words in my mouth and use selective quoting like this to put things out of context. Why not quote my whole post.

Here is the post

actually I did indeed say in many posts what host I use and in fact have gone into depth about what I used with FL to handle my audio needs when FL was my primary sequencer. The truth is I would not want to suggest what I use for you because you see I have no idea what your needs are so I would be very out of line to presume what I use would be best for you. Obviously my use of the word "you" in the above statement was made in the generic sense of the word, so the answer could vary.

For instance you could use what I use and not find it intuitive for what you need and find FL to be more intuitive, which I would have no objection to

. Than you see another host where it's so straight forward you already know what to do which in turn is more comfortable...that, taken in context can be any host one feels comfortable with.

In other words, what is straight forward to me and my ways may not be straight forward to others and that is the entire point I am making here in this thread about FL...it's not intuitive for my workflow, why do people object to that?

I am not arguing which host is better, I to my knowledge have ever done so, I only state what is best for me and I have made that very clear in my posts that what I am saying applies only to me. I wont argue what is better for anyone else...end of story.

I did indeed answer your question but it involved you going to see in other posts where I already stated what host I use (you dont have to look far). However as I outlined in bold you will find your answer as well, sorry I like to be articulate in my posts, if you dont like it dont read my posts...but please do not troll me, please do not put words in my mouth and please do not quote me out of context to cover your tracks.

[CrazyLittleSomething]

comparing Aviccii to mozart? really? classics of their generation?

Don't misquote me. I was making the point that 'entering notes into a Piano roll' is exactly what Mozart did. Re Avicii and classics? 474+ Million views shows he is doing something right.

more than 200 years later and Mozart is a household name.

how many will remember Avicii just 20 years from now?

Still Mozart was almost forgotten during the 19th century. A guy named Casadesus made him popular again some century ago afaiac. In fact there are no indications about pedal movements regarded to the piano sonatas of Mozart. While Chopin has made indications as such. For instance. And Mozart didn't have a metronome. However, in those days people would probably dance to it and not sit and watch the music. Besides, Mozart was not playing on a velocity sensitive keyboard which only strenghtens my case. His instrument had pedals though, why wouldn't he used them? It's a bit of an unsolved question, which says something about the 'popularity' of Mozart. No one even knows how to play those piano sonatas, exactly. It's not even sure if the time indications are given correctly. Anyway, I don't really see what it has to do with SOS or FLS

[jancivil]

I really do not care about any power user, they do not matter to me, it's marketing, that's all.

A runner who's paid to endorse shoes, that's marketing. The shoes he's really using, that's not marketing, that has value. We never paid anyone for endorsement.

What Scott did in the post just above this one is marketing. Pointing to 'power users' is absolutely marketing, whether they were paid or not, or whatever their involvement.
You must think 'marketing' is suspect, you're really reaching to distance this product from it as a concept.

[tooneba]

Cut your internet cable, go out to talk with friends. 0 marketing there. Profit.

[tony tony chopper]

Pointing to 'power users' is absolutely marketing, whether they were paid or not, or whatever their involvement.

That's what I said, "pointing power users" is marketing, the existence of those power users is NOT marketing (it could have been a case of sponsorship, but it's not).
Someone wrote "I could care less about X using the software because that's marketing", that can only mean one thing, "I could care less because it's not true". The only other valid answer was "I could care less about those people who use it, because I don't like/respect them", but that's not what was said.

And be honest, who has NOT started making music because of some artist(s) he liked? If X influenced your music, and X used something, would you say "I don't care because it's just marketing"?

[trimph1]

Pointing to 'power users' is absolutely marketing, whether they were paid or not, or whatever their involvement.

That's what I said, "pointing power users" is marketing, the existence of those power users is NOT marketing (it could have been a case of sponsorship, but it's not).
Someone sait "I could care less about X using the software because that's marketing", that can only mean one thing, "I could care less because it's not true". The only other valid answer was "I could care less about those people who use it, because I don't like/respect them", but that's not what was said.

And be honest, who has NOT started making music because of some artist(s) he liked? If X influenced your music, and X used something, would you say "I don't care because it's just marketing"?

That is why i think the word...influence...sounds like it has the same issue as influenza. No one wants to catch either....

[Mivo]

If you sell a product and publish a list of "famous" people who use your product, that is an act of marketing, because customers often perceive this as reassurance or evidence that the product is good (otherwise the famous person who is successful while using the product would not be using it). The information itself may simply be factual, but the manufacturer and seller distributing that list is marketing. It adds value.

I see nothing wrong with that, either. It is interesting to know, and Scott isn't a shill or a sock puppet, but openly represents IL.

[Hink]

just ftr, IMHO FL does not need the power users...it's an awesome DAW that can stand very well on it's own merits. I really do not know that many adults who care about using what a pro uses, those were the type discussions we had in high school. I know the strengths of FL for me and the weaknesses for me as do may others which this thread demonstrates quite well. I find most of my peers are more concerned with things like workflow, stability and value.

I'm not suggesting that FL does away with power users, but I think there is a time and place to bring them up. For me when I download a new version of FL I dont want the demo songs, they are typically not in the same genre as myself so I just delete them. I actually do the same with all DAWs demo songs as I would rather get in there with some hands on experience to see how a DAW works for me.

TBH though it matters very little to me how FL markets their product, I really care more about how a company listens to it's customers. Fl is a great DAW, it's a great value and I will never be sorry I own FL.

[Hink]

Pointing to 'power users' is absolutely marketing, whether they were paid or not, or whatever their involvement.

That's what I said, "pointing power users" is marketing, the existence of those power users is NOT marketing (it could have been a case of sponsorship, but it's not).
Someone wrote "I could care less about X using the software because that's marketing", that can only mean one thing, "I could care less because it's not true". The only other valid answer was "I could care less about those people who use it, because I don't like/respect them", but that's not what was said.

And be honest, who has NOT started making music because of some artist(s) he liked? If X influenced your music, and X used something, would you say "I don't care because it's just marketing"?

absolutely true, but really? Jees now that my kids are grown I thought I would done with the old thought "if everyone else jumped off a cliff would you follow?"

Say what you will, I dont buy gear because of who uses it, I do not pay for names and I wont pay for pay for names² like signature models of guitars and other gear. In fact many of my biggest influences use guitars, amps, pedals and what have you that I do not care for. It really is true that I dont care what my influences use (as in the case of many guitar influences of mine who are known for playing Les Pauls), I am my own man with my own style and the intelligence to decide what gear fits me best. I'm not trying to be my influences, I am not trying to emulate my influences, I have a lot of influences and they all contribute to shape my style but they do not define it

[T-CM11]

I really do not know that many adults who care about using what a pro uses, those were the type discussions we had in high school.

There used to be a time when adults were the only target market...

[Kriminal]

I really do not know that many adults who care about using what a pro uses, those were the type discussions we had in high school.

There used to be a time when adults were the only target market...

You must be referring to their early days as porn peddlers.