What do you make music for? 🎹 🎶 🎸
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- KVRist
- 138 posts since 12 May, 2023
To listen to and to be creative,for fun and the challenge
- KVRAF
- 8997 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
I was quite happy, when my deceased cat was still around, on days when I had weed, so I would get out of bed and make music.
I'm so fed up with being criminalized for enjoying weed, with all the FUD and hatred politicians sow for electoral gain, I don't want to hear a single thing about what's going on in my country anymore.
Not a total vacuum (and I obviously wasn't trying to "communicate" with my cats through music), but still, no people around (I even quit KVR for a while, when I ran out of weed to fend off depression).
Long ago I read Huysmans' "Against Nature", about an aesthete who goes total recluse in a kind of hedonistic way (I'm not a hedonist) - it doesn't end well:
"In the last lines of the book, he compares his return to human society to that of a non-believer trying to embrace religion"
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
- Boss Lovin' DR
- 12840 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
[Pedant]The thread title should be 'For what do you make music?', if we're being all correct and that stuff.[/Pedant]
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- addled muppet weed
- 106326 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
dullard.donkey tugger wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:02 pm [Pedant]The thread title should be 'For what do you make music?', if we're being all correct and that stuff.[/Pedant]
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
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- addled muppet weed
- 106326 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- Boss Lovin' DR
- 12840 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Indisputably.vurt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:20 pmdullard.donkey tugger wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:02 pm [Pedant]The thread title should be 'For what do you make music?', if we're being all correct and that stuff.[/Pedant]
- Boss Lovin' DR
- 12840 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2641 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
Does this double negative resolve into a positive, like:
But I have my doubts, because there are also phrases... but music IS a form of communication
like
which are not clear: Does this mean "I went everywhereI didn't go nowhere today.
today"? So did you actually say: "music is NOT a
form of communication?" And what is it instead?
That can lead to nightmares: Isn't music perhaps never a
form of miscommunication or rather not a form of
extraterrestrial not-jargon for nerds?
free mp3s + info: andy-enroe.de songs + weird stuff: enroe.de
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2641 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
Yes - thanks cptgone! Here you focus - in an almost tragic way -cptgone wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:04 pm I was quite happy, when my deceased cat was still around, ... , so I would get out of bed and make music.
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Not a total vacuum (and I obviously wasn't trying to "communicate" with my cats through music), but still, no people around (I even quit KVR for a while, when I ran out of weed to fend off depression).
Long ago I read Huysmans' "Against Nature", about an aesthete who goes total recluse in a kind of hedonistic way (I'm not a hedonist) - it doesn't end well:
"In the last lines of the book, he compares his return to human society to that of a non-believer trying to embrace religion"
on the conflict between the individual and society.
The individual - the artist or the musician - creates his or her own
individual form of expression and art. And the many people,
“society”, don’t want to know or hear anything about it.
Anyone who doesn't have a large footprint in the commercial
market is exposed to this dilemma. Those who do not produce
for the market, i.e. those who are only creative for themselves,
are usually left alone. Ok, then there's the cat who listens.
free mp3s + info: andy-enroe.de songs + weird stuff: enroe.de
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
What I did is quite standard use of a double negative (you may look it up); the other one is called bad grammar. The double negative I went with is not going to throw any native English speaker.
If you didn't go nowhere, you went somewhere ('I went everywhere' follows nothing of this), but there's no reason to phrase it that way and no one does. The usage I formed there follows context. A whole lot of people talk like that for one reason or another, a fair degree of which will be from ignorance; some prefer to be that colloquial and fit in with the other people that 'don't talk good' (also grammatically a faux pas).
BTW I do not make music 'just for myself' just because I don't make it for 'the marketplace'. I make music for the sake of making music. I actually share almost all of it, so I am not the 'just for myself' type or whatever as posited there; and if it's anything, music communicates. "just for myself", sounds suspect, insular, as though one is expected as happy with a closed loop if not within a type of vacuum. Absent all feedback, one is not likely to become very good at it.
I tend to doubt cats have any interest in it. When I was a child practicing trumpet a naborhood dog swung by to join in about every time.
There's also a concept in language known as a false (or unnecessary) dilemma, since you used that word. Unnecessary dichotomy. 'Doesn't make music for marketplace ie., makes music just for herself' is an example.
- KVRAF
- 11536 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK