KVR Audio

SE_Newbie · Post by **SE_Newbie** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:26 pm

taijiguy wrote: Anyway, I'm still using real guitars into hardware effects into a hardware mixer into a hardware sound card before Cubase does it's software dirty work. Being a purist nowadays is a real struggle.

Being a purist these days is really expensive. I use a real guitar and have a hardware multi-fx pedal that I often use a blank or simple compressor patch for DI recording, but cant really afford much more than that. Hardware is pricey these days (and so is the space required to keep it all). And to quote Tom Scholz (Boston, for those who don't know): "Also, consider the use of technology as an instrument".

ionized · Post by **ionized** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:35 pm

Aw c'mon Ron. Not trying to pick a fight with you - just trying to keep this thread on topic so that it doesn't become too much of a mish-mash of stuff.

Debra's got the right idea - please go start another thread about virtual guitar products.

GreyLion · Post by **GreyLion** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:01 pm

The most interesting guitar-related thread I've ever seen is posted at the Reaper forum:

http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9077

J Kennedy, the guy who is posting it, is a wild man.

farlukar · Post by **farlukar** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:30 pm

Here's a great one on recording.org

ionized · Post by **ionized** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:17 pm

Thanks Gents!

Yep - haven't seen anything like the Kennedy thread before - definitely a great thread for the hardware tweakers among us.

And the thread at recording.org - another thread with lots of good info that has to be locked due to someone being an a**. Oh well.

SE_Newbie · Post by **SE_Newbie** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:26 pm

GreyLion wrote:The most interesting guitar-related thread I've ever seen is posted at the Reaper forum:

http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9077

J Kennedy, the guy who is posting it, is a wild man.

+1 there.... I saved that forum...... Now if I only had a spare guitar to experiment with.

GreyLion · Post by **GreyLion** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:14 pm

SE_Newbie wrote:[Now if I only had a spare guitar to experiment with.

I have way too many guitars. And Kennedy's stuff is fascinating. Might try a few things.

But it feels like I'd be experimenting with learning brain surgery on one of my own children....

SE_Newbie · Post by **SE_Newbie** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:33 pm

farlukar wrote:Here's a great one on recording.org

LMAO this one here is very............. colorful, to put it mildly....

CapnLockheed · Post by **CapnLockheed** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:52 pm

SE_Newbie wrote:
farlukar wrote:Here's a great one on recording.org
LMAO this one here is very............. colorful, to put it mildly....

Yeah, that's F#cking hilarious!!

Cheers....CL

Killvehicle · Post by **Killvehicle** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:32 pm

GreyLion wrote:The most interesting guitar-related thread I've ever seen is posted at the Reaper forum:

http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9077

J Kennedy, the guy who is posting it, is a wild man.

Maybe interesting in a retarded way, and a wild man, but nearly everything he was saying was total bullshit!!

His thread was literally a moron who was free to ramble. I wouldnt do anything he mentioned..

Some of his workarounds kinda(but barely) made sense, but there ARE much simplier and WAY more effective ways to do a lot of what he was trying to say.. Seriously I think he has mental problems...

Killvehicle · Post by **Killvehicle** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:36 pm

GreyLion wrote:The most interesting guitar-related thread I've ever seen is posted at the Reaper forum:

http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9077

J Kennedy, the guy who is posting it, is a wild man.

Has he ever got to the point of making your guitar "Sing like the angels"? NO..

He is copying specs from pickup manufacturers for his wiring diagragms, nothing in his post is at all new..

IN fact its all old.

Aluminum foil and thumb tacks?

IN 2007 its called copper shielding tape. It comes in nice handy rolls for cheap, and can be applied very easily and quickly. And get this its "tape" so it sticks in the elctronics cavity/pickguard etc... It works WAY better than crappy foil with thumb tacks.

He was talkin about molding epoxy with motor oil in a slow cooker??? WTF!! Who in their right mind would ever do such a thing..

60 cycle hum problem?? Guess what there are a zillion single coil pickups out there that have no noise!!! If you want vintage, then get the single coils with 60 cycle hum, its part of the charm...

Potting a pickup in laquer?? Old school and not used anymore.. the reason most manufacturers use Wax is becasue its much easier to repair a pickup that has been potted in wax, If you so desire, although with all the replacement pickups out there nowadays most would just buy a replacement.
Pickups potted in Laquer will make the coil windings brittle and they would break if you ever wanted to repair it. Same thing with people who pot pickups in Epoxy (I.E Bill Lawrence, EMG i belive) these pickups are almost impossible to repair... But they are quiet.... Good tradeoff, since they realize most people arent repairing pickups too often anymore.

There is a ton more, but I dont feel like reading thru all that rubbish again...

guitarzan · Post by **guitarzan** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:41 pm

Killvehicle wrote:
GreyLion wrote:The most interesting guitar-related thread I've ever seen is posted at the Reaper forum:

http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9077

J Kennedy, the guy who is posting it, is a wild man.
Maybe interesting in a retarded way, and a wild man, but nearly everything he was saying was total bullshit!!

His thread was literally a moron who was free to ramble. I wouldnt do anything he mentioned..

Some of his workarounds kinda(but barely) made sense, but there ARE much simplier and WAY more effective ways to do a lot of what he was trying to say.. Seriously I think he has mental problems...

So far he has explained how to add and replace magnets in a pickup for experimental new tones and how to rewire a Strat to get some unusual pickup combinations. I don't see anything retarded about that - and what would be an easier way to do those things? Get somebody else to do it for you or grab something off the shelf?

Seems most people are only interested in sounding exactly like someone else nowdays, it's good to see some of the rock-n-roll experimental spirit still alive IMO!

guitarzan · Post by **guitarzan** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:34 pm

lethe wrote:Another thing I wanted to accomplish is getting all of the best software guitar rig ideas in one place. For example, I have seen several of Guitarzan's posts on his multi-vst freeware guitar rig experiments and they are scattered around in multiple threads. I would really like to see his rigs posted in one place, as well as what other people come up with.

Yeah, I've posted a bunch of them...my post on this thread: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &start=105 covers the post-amp sim part of my setup that really doesn't seem to change much no matter what amp-sim I use with. This post amp setup mostly strives to emulate physical presence - mic placement, speaker distortion, room ambience and also the compressors add to the touch sensitivity. It doesn't cover speaker sims - if the amp-sim I'm using doesn't have built in speaker emulation that I like I usually use IRs loaded in ReValver 2's RIR module or Boogex (set mostly clean) and I'm going to try out keFIR next. There are probably dozens of these types of plugins that would work instead of the ones I have been using - experimentation is the most important and funnest part of the whole deal!

Really, the things in that post cover most of what I do with all my guitar rigs, it works with ReValver, Studio Devil BVC, CrunchDude, Nick Crow's Wagner Sharp, SA Guitar Suite etc, etc. so I think I'll move on and post a link my favorite recent KVR guitar thread:

Amp sims as, well, amp sims

It had a few cool things going on: a complete new tune by Dimitar Nalbantov using ReValver MK II, a proposed open collaboration on a unique guitar distortion/amp-sim creation plug by Mokafix, FrettedSyth popped in with a short statement about the upcoming FA3 (more details here: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2694991) and some speculation about the future of amp sims.

I'll try to post links for some other interesting recent KVR guitar threads when I get a chance to look them up.

guitarzan · Post by **guitarzan** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:36 pm

Oh yeah, the Wagner Sharp VST - free tube guitar preamp by Nick Crow thread. Use with cab IRs, etc!!

The KVR Guitar Players Thread - links to great guitar posts