Bitwig 5.2 BETA available

[pc999]

No improvements to the browser, they made it worse last time and are keeping it that way

[lodsb]

Comp+ uses about the about the same CPU as Presswerk in HQ mode or something like UADx API 2500 on my Ryzen and M1. In which regard is that a CPU hog?

[spoontechnique]

Once I customized my collections and set up my context menu, I much preferred the new browser. I would highly recommend giving it a second chance. I wouldn't want to go back to the old browser now.

Inserting compressors on every channel is common for mixing certain styles. Sending everything to an FX return or a group is basically buss compression, which is also useful, but not the same thing. A compressor on a return is reacting to and compressing all the channels going into it. An insert on a snare top mic, or an overhead, or a room, changes only that channel. And putting a compressor or channel strip on every drum channel (often 12+) is not an extreme workflow, it's almost standard for many mixers. I mean, a lot of mixing boards have compressors/gates/EQs built into every channel. Hence the concept of a channel strip. I'd love to build my own Bitwig channel strip for mixing.

[SLiC]

Comp+ uses about the about the same CPU as Presswerk in HQ mode or something like UADx API 2500 on my Ryzen and M1. In which regard is that a CPU hog?

Hopefully it will be optimised, I have over 30 plug in compressors already (NI, UA, Softube,fabfilter,IK etc) so it either needs to be very light on CPU or better than what I already use to ever get used outside of rack instrument presets.

[SLiC]

And putting a compressor or channel strip on every drum channel (often 12+) is not an extreme workflow, it's almost standard for many mixers. I mean, a lot of mixing boards have compressors/gates/EQs built into every channel. Hence the concept of a channel strip. I'd love to build my own Bitwig channel strip for mixing.

That’s why I use an X32 desk, I have light gates, compressors and limiters on everything before it hits the converters or recording drums and guitars etc an be a bit messy).

[vroteg]

The CPU drain of Comp+ is a bummer. For mixing a rock band, it's normal to have a compressor on every drum track, every buss, the guitars, multiple layers of vocals, etc. That adds up.

Mixing? Rock band? In bitwig? Really? I know there are people who are into fetish but mixing in bitwig… that’s a bit too much.

Don’t think this program is suitable for the task as it is 10% DAW and 90% synth. There are better options for mixing.

[moss]

The CPU drain of Comp+ is a bummer. For mixing a rock band, it's normal to have a compressor on every drum track, every buss, the guitars, multiple layers of vocals, etc. That adds up.

Mixing? Rock band? In bitwig? Really? I know there are people who are into fetish but mixing in bitwig… that’s a bit too much.

Don’t think this program is suitable for the task as it is 10% DAW and 90% synth. There are better options for mixing.

I do the same. I stopped using Cubase for this task completely. There a quite a lot of people who use Bitwig for non-electronic music.

[vroteg]

I do the same. I stopped using Cubase for this task completely. There a quite a lot of people who use Bitwig for non-electronic music.

I know quite a few electronic musicians who produce in bitwig but for mixing opt for more suitable for the task programs. Bitwig missing even basic mixing tools like track manager, vca faders, snapshots, pitch correction, track alignment… etc.

Well, I don’t know how but if it works for you then it works for you. Good luck

[Stan Navi]

I do the same. I stopped using Cubase for this task completely. There a quite a lot of people who use Bitwig for non-electronic music.

I know quite a few electronic musicians who produce in bitwig but for mixing opt for more suitable for the task programs. Bitwig missing even basic mixing tools like track manager, vca faders, snapshots, pitch correction, track alignment… etc.

Well, I don’t know how but if it works for you then it works for you. Good luck

If your hands are not growing from the ass, Bitwig has all tools for mixing.

[spoontechnique]

There probably are better options for mixing more "rock band" type projects (although for Linux there's not many). I'm not in a professional studio, so Bitwig is good enough for me. I've tried or used almost every major DAW and I think I would mix 90% the same in most of them.

Bitwig clearly wants to be a DAW that can handle recorded music. They added comping, and now they're adding analog EQ emulations and compressors.

I've used DAWs with snapshots in the past and found I never liked using snapshots. Same for pitch correction, and a lot of people use third party tools (Vocalign?) for track alignment, drum trigger extraction, etc. VCA faders can probably be replicated in Bitwig somehow (but I always prefer groups anyway).

Just cause a DAW has a strong suit doesn't mean it can't do other things. Exceptions being specialized DAWs like Renoise or Blockhead, of course.

[drsyncenstein]

Bitwig clearly wants to be a DAW that can handle recorded music.

Does electronic music grow on trees? How does the sound of synths and drumcomputers get in the daw when it's not recorded?

[Jac459]

Bitwig clearly wants to be a DAW that can handle recorded music.

Does electronic music grow on trees?

Absolutely, with VSTs like symplant.

How does the sound of synths and drumcomputers get in the daw when it's not recorded?

Through midi.
Are you mixing midi and midi comping ?
Are you playing so freaking well your "drum computer" that you if you correct your midi input manually it will kill the genius of your drum loop ???
Are you serious???

Midi comping is a feature you are absolutely welcome to want. But just don't pretend like a lot of us are giving a f**k about it...

[drsyncenstein]

oh boy..

Midi can't transport sound. None, nothing.
You can make a synth play through midi, but the sounds get recorded by an audiointerface.
Just like any physical instrument.
That's why lots of electronic music gets recorded.
And that's why, even if Bitwig were solely focused on electronic music, recording audio would still be very important for Bitwig.

[SLiC]

Quite a lot of synths and drum machines will do audio over USB now, even along side your normal audio IO (such as Electron) but even with that option about a dozen inputs on my desk are taken with synths. The line level stuff can however be a bit more set and forget over miking amps and drums etc, I always prefer hardware gates and comps on this type of stuff before it hits the AD.

Still less need for pitch correction on midi stuff over vocals and guitar, also I prefer better integrated audio editing, why I switch to another DAW for that type of recording but you can of course do it with any DAW at all including Reason (which has a great mixer and pitch correction)

[lodsb]

Comp+ uses about the about the same CPU as Presswerk in HQ mode or something like UADx API 2500 on my Ryzen and M1. In which regard is that a CPU hog?

Hopefully it will be optimised, I have over 30 plug in compressors already (NI, UA, Softube,fabfilter,IK etc) so it either needs to be very light on CPU or better than what I already use to ever get used outside of rack instrument presets.

I don't get your point. Are you stating that comp+ does not offer anything over your 30 other compressors? No-one is keeping you from using the old compressor for light CPU usage (?).