Andromeda only got monotimbral effects, software synth are much better equipped.kmonkey wrote:It is simple. No SW synth sound like Andromeda. Yet.
And just like sofware synths Andromeda lacks discrete components.
Andromeda only got monotimbral effects, software synth are much better equipped.kmonkey wrote:It is simple. No SW synth sound like Andromeda. Yet.
It's not a paradox, I didn't say it would sound the same, I said it could still be as good. Some people think caviar is the finest food in the world, and I would just argue that if you can't afford caviar or even if you can, you could still find something just as a good OR BETTER, for a much cheaper.kmonkey wrote:That's true paradox above.toine6 wrote:you could still use free vst's and make music just as good though not exactly the same.
You can not make free synth to sound as lovely as paid one. There is even greater difference between paid one and truly amazing hardware synth. Tell me free synth which can sound as Bazille? Give me one? What do you know what i am trying to achieve?
Yes i can make music with free synths but what kind of music exactly? If you will now claim that Kraftwerk would sound the same with free synths i'll just say Tuna-fish to that.
Thanks for your support. I am not sure why a couple posters got personal in this topic, when no matter how hard i try to be "nice", there is always someone who takes it the wrong way. So thanks for at least being one showing the GOOD kind of support since the topic has gone that way.kmonkey wrote:This won't help as much but i wanted to chime in with my personal opinion.
I can only reflect OP findings. I don't have A6 but my friend does have two of them. He is sounddesigner. Anyway....i had chance to listen this instrument and okay i am here for what more then decade, i have my personal bias, no agenda whatsoever. Zero emotions regarding company brand and lalalala.
My top of the top synth company is U-he, then Ni and then everyone else. That being said i was blown away by A6. Should i note that best softsynth of all time at this point of time is for me - Bazille.
You can all bullshit me with "it's because it is tactile" or whatever the nonsense you can came up with. I have more then 100 plugins, probably 40% of them are synths. I run them at all rates, i do know how to design pad blabla.
There is simply no plugin (no i can't get this from Diva) which can get you such amazing pads as on A6. I don't have words to describe this i simply decided to stop wasting time trying to make my plugins to sound as good as hardware synth because at this point it is still impossible. Maybe not totally impossible some synth do sound same or even better then similar HW i will admit that. But there is so much under that HW canvas that it is impossible to say that sw sound as good as hw.
As i see it now after so many time people which claim soft synths sound same as hardware synths simply never tried one. There is no other explanation for this phenomenon..
Here i am playing with my integra 7 which is all in out software yet for some reason these outdated roms sound more lively then on my computer. Especially when transposing. Kontakt does not give me same results not even at 96khz with best possible quality.
Someone said that once upon a time he created two tracks and one had Virus other had plugin. People picked plugin. Ohhh weeee what this does tell me. That you provided better result with the plugin. If you think that plugin is better then Virus because of this particular track where you even intentionally mixed virus badly - well no shit Sherlock...amazingly absurd test and time wasted. With Reaktor i can create my trash can to sound better then some of my hardware if that is my intention.
I am actually glad OP stepped up with this because we all know he is persistent and he have ton of plugins, he know how to do proper test so you can not shut him up.
I would totally agree here!Urs wrote:Because Alesis are really good in making reverbs. I mean, really really good. Most on-board reverbs of softsynths (including ours) don't sound as good as the Alesis reverb built into the Andromeda. The best fix for this is to buy a decent reverb and drench the sound of any synth in it, like it was done in the video you linked. Problem solved, huge amounts of money savedTheoM wrote:why have i NEVER heard ANY plugin that can sound as good?
Especially costs, but also maintenance. Plus the extra cables, more power, space..etc....on the other hand, a good synth like (IMHO) sub37, is just awesome to play with. No midi controller i used trumps that. Not by a long shot.chk071 wrote:I probably would love hardware too, if i owned some. Pretty sure i'd fall in love with something like the Virus Polar for example. So i can really understand why people go for it. Obviously, the hands on lets you build up an entirely different relationship, than operating something virtually on a screen. If hardware sounds better, i cannot judge. But what i guess is that with building hardware, the pressure to build quality is probably a bit higher than with software, simply because the manufacturing costs are higher, and you need someone to build stuff for you, or delivers parts to you.
Anyway, i'd love to own something hardware. It's just the costs that put me off.
So, as Andromeda came out in 2001, did you waste 15 years of your musical life playing with inferior products.TheoM wrote:So i am asking in all seriousness... if plugins are as good, why have i NEVER heard ANY plugin that can sound as good? In terms of raw tone and emotion.. playing pads on that thing literally had my entire body in shivers, i almost started crying at one point!
I may be wrong, but really its just the filters that are analogue in those units...???TheoM wrote:
Anyway, these are the analogs i currently have - jdxi monophonic voice, pulse 2 mono and 8 voice paraphonic, and 2 chained dsi tetra for 8 voice poly.. and in all three of the i find the bass end (pulse), pads(tetra) and rawness (jD) better than softsynth.
that was when i had my severe ear damage and decided to sell up the lot.. i quit and travelled for a while.. when i re learned how to mix, i started again with all software. Had moved into my own home, so cost vs space etc (previously we had a huge studio)Numanoid wrote:So, as Andromeda came out in 2001, did you waste 15 years of your musical life playing with inferior products.TheoM wrote:So i am asking in all seriousness... if plugins are as good, why have i NEVER heard ANY plugin that can sound as good? In terms of raw tone and emotion.. playing pads on that thing literally had my entire body in shivers, i almost started crying at one point!
So you owned an Andromeda earlier, but sold it, because of storage issues when you went travelling?TheoM wrote:no wasted time.. just seeking the best as time goes on.. does that sufficiently answer you?
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