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- KVRian
- 712 posts since 26 Dec, 2007 from Australia
I can do the XML but I can't really start on it until this evening. If I'm on target with the pixels then it should take an hour or two.
If anyone can on to it before then...
I'm thinking that the best way would be to open the background image in any graphics package and use the cursor to find the pixel coordinates.
Edit: Oh and I am in Australia by the way so your evening may not be my evening. It's just gone midday here .... hangover clearing
If anyone can on to it before then...
I'm thinking that the best way would be to open the background image in any graphics package and use the cursor to find the pixel coordinates.
Edit: Oh and I am in Australia by the way so your evening may not be my evening. It's just gone midday here .... hangover clearing
- KVRist
- 187 posts since 27 Jun, 2014
Awesome H-Man.H-man wrote:I can do the XML but I can't really start on it until this evening. If I'm on target with the pixels then it should take an hour or two.
If anyone can on to it before then...
I'm thinking that the best way would be to open the background image in any graphics package and use the cursor to find the pixel coordinates.
Edit: Oh and I am in Australia by the way so your evening may not be my evening. It's just gone midday here .... hangover clearing
Let's combine powers and do a few passbacks until she's singing . Future designers/skin makers will thank us profusely for this template.
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- KVRian
- 712 posts since 26 Dec, 2007 from Australia
Cool, I'll pm you when iI'm ready to get going.Norbz wrote:Let's combine powers and do a few passbacks until she's singing
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- KVRAF
- 11062 posts since 12 May, 2008
Norbz wrote:Thankya!
Here's what a flat(ter) one would look like - removed most shadows/gradiants - left things grey for now:
The sooner someone XML's the above - sooner you guys will have a bunch of photoshoppers be able to create things with ease vs combining the AI/PDF uneditable labels and no background panel elements. With the above you'll be able to grab any text, edit it, move it, change font, etc. Grab any background panel and give it a color/treatment, and generally be able to move stuff around/resize/etc. a lot easier than the current setup.
Bombing resumed lol, and would the real XML pros please stand up.
Looking good man! I think that flat style is really the way to go. I still don't think you need those extra lines in the envelopes section to divide each into three regions, but no biggie either way.
It would look aspecially good I bet with the dropdown box second from the left (the one to the right of the original):
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- KVRist
- 187 posts since 27 Jun, 2014
^ Cheers .
Another tip for figuring out and fine tuning placement :: You could import the image WITH the knobs already there as the background first (maybe inverted/negative or much darker) so you can position the XML elements easier to match them up to the pixel when overlaying each element..
Another tip for figuring out and fine tuning placement :: You could import the image WITH the knobs already there as the background first (maybe inverted/negative or much darker) so you can position the XML elements easier to match them up to the pixel when overlaying each element..
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- KVRAF
- 11062 posts since 12 May, 2008
Hey Norbz, I think there's one thing that's a bit confusing about the rearrangement in the osc section. The switches for Dest/waveform mod and for PW/Phase Mod are in the middle between two mod boxes, but they actually only pertain to the modulations on the left. So it would make more sense directly over those mod dropdown on the left side. Also to clear up labels even more than you've done already, you don't actually need the words "Mod" in those labels for the switches, because it's clear those are mod controls. SO for examples the labels for the top switch could be DEST on the left and WAVEFORM on the right. And then the lower ones could just say PW on the left and PHASE on the right. This might give you enough room to slide the switches left to be over the mod dropdown that it is setting the destination for.
- KVRist
- 187 posts since 27 Jun, 2014
Oops - So you mean like this? **I've updated the preview and the BG .png's above to match.Echoes in the Attic wrote:Hey Norbz, I think there's one thing that's a bit confusing about the rearrangement in the osc section. The switches for Dest/waveform mod and for PW/Phase Mod are in the middle between two mod boxes, but they actually only pertain to the modulations on the left. So it would make more sense directly over those mod dropdown on the left side. Also to clear up labels even more than you've done already, you don't actually need the words "Mod" in those labels for the switches, because it's clear those are mod controls. SO for examples the labels for the top switch could be DEST on the left and WAVEFORM on the right. And then the lower ones could just say PW on the left and PHASE on the right. This might give you enough room to slide the switches left to be over the mod dropdown that it is setting the destination for.
EDIT: @ H-man: I'm in Toronto, our timezones are different, if I'm not here please just go ahead, place priority on the knob/element positioning over the labels as I can move them after easy enough (or move them in psd on the BG png file and I'll match here when you're done).
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
I was doing this with the coordinates display in WIndows Paint so far (as already mentioned earlier in this thread).H-man wrote: I'm thinking that the best way would be to open the background image in any graphics package and use the cursor to find the pixel coordinates.
Was also able to measure an "offset" for my own knobs. Depending on which knobs you use they could be 30 or more off from the position in the XML file. In many cases this way i wa able to get the right poition at the first try or at least +/- 1 pixel. n others it was more difficult, especially with the 2-way/3-way switches.
You could get the ofset e.g. when adding your knobs to the default sin and checing which offset is needed to get it at the right position.
Anyway the"fine tuning" of the positions could takke longer than the whole "rough" placing. Every time you think you are done you'll find at least a few knobs that still need some tweaking...
Currently editing the positions for a new rearranged "widescreen" version of my own skin. None of the controls has the original position of the default skin or my previous one in that one.
Also using the free GIMP picture editor now for some more complex editing tasks (e.g. anti-aliasing and ading effects).
Of course Knobman is still one of the most important tools for this kind of stuff (e.g. editing knobs and editing labnels directly there).
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- KVRAF
- 18566 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Norbz PLEASE contact Admiral Quality at his support e-mail address. There are issues with your skin that need to be discussed.
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- KVRAF
- 11062 posts since 12 May, 2008
Yeah. Although if you need to shorten "Waveform" even more I'd just go with Wave rather than Wave-F. And no more boxes around things! The AM and FM modulate the amplitude and frequency in the oscillator section so they should be sectioned off any more than the waveform or phase mod.Norbz wrote:Oops - So you mean like this? **I've updated the preview and the BG .png's above to match.Echoes in the Attic wrote:Hey Norbz, I think there's one thing that's a bit confusing about the rearrangement in the osc section. The switches for Dest/waveform mod and for PW/Phase Mod are in the middle between two mod boxes, but they actually only pertain to the modulations on the left. So it would make more sense directly over those mod dropdown on the left side. Also to clear up labels even more than you've done already, you don't actually need the words "Mod" in those labels for the switches, because it's clear those are mod controls. SO for examples the labels for the top switch could be DEST on the left and WAVEFORM on the right. And then the lower ones could just say PW on the left and PHASE on the right. This might give you enough room to slide the switches left to be over the mod dropdown that it is setting the destination for.
EDIT: @ H-man: I'm in Toronto, our timezones are different, if I'm not here please just go ahead, place priority on the knob/element positioning over the labels as I can move them after easy enough (or move them in psd on the BG png file and I'll match here when you're done).
- KVRist
- 187 posts since 27 Jun, 2014
Heya,Teksonik wrote:Norbz PLEASE contact Admiral Quality at his support e-mail address. There are issues with your skin that need to be discussed.
Sorry but I won't be emailing - tell them to come post here where everyone is participating and it's centralized. I can't partition even more time now into back and forth emails. I'm doing this as a template you guys will be able to finalize on your own after.
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- KVRAF
- 3329 posts since 7 Aug, 2008
Admiral is banned and can't post here.Norbz wrote:Heya,Teksonik wrote:Norbz PLEASE contact Admiral Quality at his support e-mail address. There are issues with your skin that need to be discussed.
Sorry but I won't be emailing - tell them to come post here where everyone is participating and it's centralized. I can't partition even more time now into back and forth emails. I'm doing this as a template you guys will be able to finalize on your own after.
- KVRist
- 187 posts since 27 Jun, 2014
I see. If you are his voice, you can post the issues on his behalf?
I really just wanted to do this as a fun exercise for an evening, and now I've spent a great deal of time on it (and enjoyed it ). I am not creating a finalized skin but rather a template for other designers to follow - you guys will get all the source files and be able to edit at will fixing any issue. H-Man is chopping things up probably as I type so let's wait until he's done and if you can compile AQ's notes and post that would be great.
I really just wanted to do this as a fun exercise for an evening, and now I've spent a great deal of time on it (and enjoyed it ). I am not creating a finalized skin but rather a template for other designers to follow - you guys will get all the source files and be able to edit at will fixing any issue. H-Man is chopping things up probably as I type so let's wait until he's done and if you can compile AQ's notes and post that would be great.
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- KVRian
- 712 posts since 26 Dec, 2007 from Australia
Work in progress
Ingo was right about it taking longer than expected. It's fiddly stuff but I have the top row almost done.
Would be interested to know what Mike's concerns are tho.
Ingo was right about it taking longer than expected. It's fiddly stuff but I have the top row almost done.
Would be interested to know what Mike's concerns are tho.
- KVRist
- 187 posts since 27 Jun, 2014
Ok I'll wait until H-Man is done and can polish it up. The color separator behind the bottom right on the OSC was more for me to understand it and space things - don't worry you guys will have tons of skins once this is done and everything will still be editable.Echoes in the Attic wrote:Yeah. Although if you need to shorten "Waveform" even more I'd just go with Wave rather than Wave-F. And no more boxes around things! The AM and FM modulate the amplitude and frequency in the oscillator section so they should be sectioned off any more than the waveform or phase mod.Norbz wrote:Oops - So you mean like this? **I've updated the preview and the BG .png's above to match.Echoes in the Attic wrote:Hey Norbz, I think there's one thing that's a bit confusing about the rearrangement in the osc section. The switches for Dest/waveform mod and for PW/Phase Mod are in the middle between two mod boxes, but they actually only pertain to the modulations on the left. So it would make more sense directly over those mod dropdown on the left side. Also to clear up labels even more than you've done already, you don't actually need the words "Mod" in those labels for the switches, because it's clear those are mod controls. SO for examples the labels for the top switch could be DEST on the left and WAVEFORM on the right. And then the lower ones could just say PW on the left and PHASE on the right. This might give you enough room to slide the switches left to be over the mod dropdown that it is setting the destination for.
EDIT: @ H-man: I'm in Toronto, our timezones are different, if I'm not here please just go ahead, place priority on the knob/element positioning over the labels as I can move them after easy enough (or move them in psd on the BG png file and I'll match here when you're done).
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