Realtime jam online
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 201 posts since 2 Sep, 2011
Someone asked me if there's any free software that allows you to play music with friends over the internet in real-time without latency. I've never heard of any. Does anyone know anything about this?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 201 posts since 2 Sep, 2011
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- KVRAF
- 7137 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
The internet has latency. Nothing gets around that. It's value is very large compared with the level of latency you'd allow when playing, say, a keyboard through your computer - orders of magnitude larger. Thus there is no physical means possible of true real time playing over the internet.
llcon is now called Jamulus and uses "just in time" playing: i.e. if you're close enough (in network topology terms) and can put up with the latency - and jitter and drop outs - then it's close-ish to real-time. You get the "feel" of playing at the same time other people are playing. But you do need to be pretty relaxed in your time keeping whilst being pretty strict about it at the same time, which can be confusing.
Ninjam works in multiples of a beat and then synchronises at that multiple. That allows playing "in time with the beat" - but you're not playing at the same time as other participants, you're an "interval" (or multiple) apart. This can work well if you've a good - shared - understanding of a musical structure you're exploring but you're playing to what someone else played in the past and they won't hear you until sometime in the future (so to speak), which can be confusing.
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llcon is now called Jamulus and uses "just in time" playing: i.e. if you're close enough (in network topology terms) and can put up with the latency - and jitter and drop outs - then it's close-ish to real-time. You get the "feel" of playing at the same time other people are playing. But you do need to be pretty relaxed in your time keeping whilst being pretty strict about it at the same time, which can be confusing.
Ninjam works in multiples of a beat and then synchronises at that multiple. That allows playing "in time with the beat" - but you're not playing at the same time as other participants, you're an "interval" (or multiple) apart. This can work well if you've a good - shared - understanding of a musical structure you're exploring but you're playing to what someone else played in the past and they won't hear you until sometime in the future (so to speak), which can be confusing.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 201 posts since 2 Sep, 2011
Thanks for the info! Not confusing at all
I found a few online services too
http://www.ejamming.com/learn-more/
http://www.sofasession.com/
https://www.jamkazam.com/
I found a few online services too
http://www.ejamming.com/learn-more/
http://www.sofasession.com/
https://www.jamkazam.com/
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