The virtual metal band thread
- KVRian
- 667 posts since 27 Jul, 2010
Slooowwwwly... Still trying to determine instrumentation and overall sound.bill45 wrote:Hey Rick, How the next CD coming along. How ya doing with acoustics?
I want it to be more electronic than the last, but don't want to stray from the tech/death thing. Also don't want the electronic side to fall into any particular electronic sub genre.. so it's kinda tricky.
Acou6tics is great. I've got it sounding just the way I need.. now I just gotta start actually producing something with it.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2586 posts since 15 Jun, 2006
Isn't every new project tricky? Trying to find your own voice, trying to be different from your last one,
Ain't easy man! It's like pulling teeth, but that uphoria when you finish!!!!
Ain't easy man! It's like pulling teeth, but that uphoria when you finish!!!!
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What Tha Frell What Tha Frell https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333037
- KVRer
- 6 posts since 22 Jun, 2014
Ok thanks didn't know that.progtronic wrote: There are settings to trigger the hammerons and pulloffs automatically based on speed, even in the muted-sustain mode.. not sure where that setting is exactly though. I use that mode mostly, as well.
Any Ideas on my fundamental problem of overwhelming high end fuzz/distortion/static or whatever that overwhelms the actual guitar?
I can't seem to get anywhere near the tone (metal solo) without having the high end crap all over it.
- KVRian
- 667 posts since 27 Jul, 2010
Sorta answered this on your thread over at gearslutz. Though reading over there again.. I think I misunderstood your problem.. so I'll re-iterate here.What Tha Frell wrote:Ok thanks didn't know that.progtronic wrote: There are settings to trigger the hammerons and pulloffs automatically based on speed, even in the muted-sustain mode.. not sure where that setting is exactly though. I use that mode mostly, as well.
Any Ideas on my fundamental problem of overwhelming high end fuzz/distortion/static or whatever that overwhelms the actual guitar?
I can't seem to get anywhere near the tone (metal solo) without having the high end crap all over it.
Basically.. try seeing what you can get away with using the least amount of distortion possible. And with those whiny mids and screeching highs.. insert a pro filter, (right after the amp) and try to smooth over those harsh tones a bit.
You can also eq out those highs and mids.. or even try a bit of both (filtering and eq).
I usually insert a couple eq's right after the amp (shelving and parametric to augment the lows and mid-highs).. then maybe a pro filter to roll off any harsh highs.. if there's too much fuzzy high end after all that.
Then, I'll add in the other effects.. like chorus and/or phaser (for some movement and width).. or whatnot. Maybe a couple more eq's to beef up whatever the modulation might have washed out a bit.. then a little delay and/or reverb at the end of the chain.
It really all just comes down to lots of experimentation.
I totally feel your pain for just wanting to get to the end result quickly (was totally frustrated early on with all this stuff myself). But, you'll find that if you can settle down and take the time to really learn what's going on as you add and tweak stuff in your effects chains.. you'll eventually start to get good results.
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What Tha Frell What Tha Frell https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333037
- KVRer
- 6 posts since 22 Jun, 2014
Yea, I didn't realize that until just now that I was talking to the same person.progtronic wrote: Sorta answered this on your thread over at gearslutz. Though reading over there again.. I think I misunderstood your problem.. so I'll re-iterate here..
Yea, somethings I do get to the end result rather quickly with youtube video's and forum posts, but I'm starting to see that this isn't going to be one of those things.progtronic wrote: I totally feel your pain for just wanting to get to the end result quickly (was totally frustrated early on with all this stuff myself). But, you'll find that if you can settle down and take the time to really learn what's going on as you add and tweak stuff in your effects chains.. you'll eventually start to get good results.
- KVRist
- 476 posts since 30 May, 2002 from Scotland
dunno if this qualifies as "virtual metal", but it's some form of virtual (post?) rock music, and gets quite loud and noisy in places:
https://soundcloud.com/biomechanoid/sky ... gainst-the
https://soundcloud.com/biomechanoid/sky ... gainst-the
"Its my firm belief that its a mistake to hold firm beliefs"
https://soundcloud.com/biomechanoid
https://soundcloud.com/biomechanoid
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- KVRist
- 95 posts since 28 Jan, 2009
Time to revive this thread!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTgfBz_23eQ
Guitars - Shreddage 2X, Electri6ity, Prominy V-Metal
Bass - Native Instruments Rickenbacker Bass
Drums - Toontrack Superior Drummer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTgfBz_23eQ
Guitars - Shreddage 2X, Electri6ity, Prominy V-Metal
Bass - Native Instruments Rickenbacker Bass
Drums - Toontrack Superior Drummer
Check out my solo project!
If you like alternative rock/grunge https://soundcloud.com/anger-cage
If you like alternative rock/grunge https://soundcloud.com/anger-cage
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- KVRist
- 95 posts since 28 Jan, 2009
Another one I just finished up, today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaOT07D5zEI
Guitars - Shreddage 2X, Electri6ity, Prominy V-Metal
Bass - Native Instruments Rickenbacker Bass
Drums - Toontrack Superior Drummer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaOT07D5zEI
Guitars - Shreddage 2X, Electri6ity, Prominy V-Metal
Bass - Native Instruments Rickenbacker Bass
Drums - Toontrack Superior Drummer
Check out my solo project!
If you like alternative rock/grunge https://soundcloud.com/anger-cage
If you like alternative rock/grunge https://soundcloud.com/anger-cage
- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 6 Jul, 2012 from Sick-cily
I could understand if someone having not a real drummer and the hardware stuff to record it but have a sense to do instrumental (metal) songs with virtual guitars and bass? IMO NO... Can't reproduce it live, it remains all in a dusty (home) studio or became famous on YouTube... I also did the drums (and some synths) with virtual instruments but recording true bass, true guitars, true vocals... Seems so absurd to Me...
This is a true (Prog) Metal Song played by true Humans with True Instruments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zwgI6_kw0w
Good Illusions to all
This is a true (Prog) Metal Song played by true Humans with True Instruments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zwgI6_kw0w
Good Illusions to all
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- KVRist
- 95 posts since 28 Jan, 2009
Dude, I'd be happy to become famous on youtube, lol.
Check out my solo project!
If you like alternative rock/grunge https://soundcloud.com/anger-cage
If you like alternative rock/grunge https://soundcloud.com/anger-cage
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- KVRist
- 95 posts since 28 Jan, 2009
Check out my solo project!
If you like alternative rock/grunge https://soundcloud.com/anger-cage
If you like alternative rock/grunge https://soundcloud.com/anger-cage
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
Thanks for the thread guys. I am unsure how I feel about it, but the whole thing is thought provoking and inspirational. I like the music, and I guess it's all in how you use it. keep it coming for now. See where this goes.
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- KVRist
- 95 posts since 28 Jan, 2009
Gonna have a new album coming in a couple months. I'll update here when I unveil it.
Check out my solo project!
If you like alternative rock/grunge https://soundcloud.com/anger-cage
If you like alternative rock/grunge https://soundcloud.com/anger-cage
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- KVRAF
- 2142 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland
What are the options for virtual metal vocals? Anything other than Vocaloid, UTAU and Soundiron's Voices Of Rage?