While there is still a couple things I miss in Live (mainly in the sequencer midi editing), there is too much I couldn't go back to not having that's in Bitwig. I mean, putting a midi controlled effect and an instrument on different tracks? No thanks! That feels like a clunky workaround now that I can just put an instrument and an effect on the same track and control them both by midi on that track. No midi and audio regions on the same track. Blasphemy! Not having a browser that shows me all the samples of all the folders under a given folder? Pfffsshh, no way. I don't want to have to drill down to every single older to see every sample in it! And with 1.1, the multi-out device on a single tracks is going to be even harder to come back from.pdxindy wrote:I just cannot accept the lack of a count-in for recording clips... I do that too much in Live.hibidy wrote:There are so many things I like, but it does seem like it's not there yet. I was thinking maybe with 1.1 it was worth demoing, getting used to and then some things are fixed/improved but I'm not sure now.
But it is still my long term plan to switch to Bitwig... maybe 1.2
The All In One Source Bitwig Information & Speculation Thread
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 12 May, 2008
- KVRAF
- 25459 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Maybe because I nagged so much about itEchoes in the Attic wrote:Support tells me this is coming in one of the next updates.pdxindy wrote:I just cannot accept the lack of a count-in for recording clips... I do that too much in Live.hibidy wrote:There are so many things I like, but it does seem like it's not there yet. I was thinking maybe with 1.1 it was worth demoing, getting used to and then some things are fixed/improved but I'm not sure now.
- KVRAF
- 25459 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Things I would miss from LiveEchoes in the Attic wrote:While there is still a couple things I miss in Live (mainly in the sequencer midi editing), there is too much I couldn't go back to not having that's in Bitwig. I mean, putting a midi controlled effect and an instrument on different tracks? No thanks! That feels like a clunky workaround now that I can just put an instrument and an effect on the same track and control them both by midi on that track. No midi and audio regions on the same track. Blasphemy! Not having a browser that shows me all the samples of all the folders under a given folder? Pfffsshh, no way. I don't want to have to drill down to every single older to see every sample in it! And with 1.1, the multi-out device on a single tracks is going to be even harder to come back from.pdxindy wrote:I just cannot accept the lack of a count-in for recording clips... I do that too much in Live.hibidy wrote:There are so many things I like, but it does seem like it's not there yet. I was thinking maybe with 1.1 it was worth demoing, getting used to and then some things are fixed/improved but I'm not sure now.
But it is still my long term plan to switch to Bitwig... maybe 1.2
Clip count-in
Time signature changes
Midi step recording (love this feature)
Groove Pool
plus a few others including some important features on Push...
I doubt I will upgrade to Live 10 whenever that comes out... and at some point expect to switch to Bitwig. I love the bounce in place because (as you point out) audio and midi can be on the same track.
- KVRAF
- 2562 posts since 1 Oct, 2013
Ah, missed that whole deal, thanks.dsan@mail.com wrote:Yeah, Ogopogo, very early on Crazy got a little, well,.....crazy and got censored.
But I think it was just temporary.
Team BWS does appreciate constructive input.
Happy Musiking!
dsan
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- KVRAF
- 4507 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
u can even cut a MIDI note into half, hello ALEchoes in the Attic wrote: ...While there is still a couple things I miss in Live (mainly in the sequencer midi editing), there is too much I couldn't go back to not having that's in Bitwig. ...
https://www.ableton.com/answers/how-do- ... te-in-half
and what about automation looping (u can't drop automations back from arrangement to session view)
https://www.ableton.com/answers/is-it-p ... ith-live-9 vs BWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neUNqsGtEZs
and unified modulation, multi-layer track editing and PDC (on effects, and on automations) etc. session view of AL is unbeatable but otherwise (ok ... Push is also a great one)
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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CrazyLittleSomething CrazyLittleSomething https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=339012
- KVRist
- 84 posts since 3 Oct, 2014 from Amsterdam
let the good times roll
let them knock you around
let the good times roll
let them make you a
let them knock you around
let the good times roll
let them make you a
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CrazyLittleSomething CrazyLittleSomething https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=339012
- KVRist
- 84 posts since 3 Oct, 2014 from Amsterdam
No comment.dsan@mail.com wrote:Yeah, Ogopogo, very early on Crazy got a little, well,.....crazy and got censored.
But I think it was just temporary.
Team BWS does appreciate constructive input.
Happy Musiking!
dsan
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- KVRAF
- 2193 posts since 25 Dec, 2005
So they prefer Cat pics?dsan@mail.com wrote:
Team BWS does appreciate constructive input.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Well guys, I decided to bite the bullet and nobody has it
Absolutely figures. I can get it from GC but I have to pay the full 299. Not sure if the uncle will get anymore licenses soon enough to curb my needs
Absolutely figures. I can get it from GC but I have to pay the full 299. Not sure if the uncle will get anymore licenses soon enough to curb my needs
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CrazyLittleSomething CrazyLittleSomething https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=339012
- KVRist
- 84 posts since 3 Oct, 2014 from Amsterdam
I have decided to boycot and abandon German products from now on
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CrazyLittleSomething CrazyLittleSomething https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=339012
- KVRist
- 84 posts since 3 Oct, 2014 from Amsterdam
Lol, so true. Whatever happened to the Brits?
- KVRAF
- 25459 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
You gonna go for Live 10?hibidy wrote:Well guys, I decided to bite the bullet and nobody has it
Absolutely figures. I can get it from GC but I have to pay the full 299. Not sure if the uncle will get anymore licenses soon enough to curb my needs
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON
I still have not bitwigged bitwig.
I is happy with what I have now.
I is happy with what I have now.
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing