I really wish someone would make a midi keyboard with 16 faders.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 360 posts since 1 Nov, 2012 from England
Having 8 faders on a midi keyboard is cool and everything, but 16 would be so much better. Yeah I know you can nudge the buttons back when you get past 8, but its just not the same .
Looking at the layout of my Novation Launchkey 49, there would be enough room to get another 8 faders on there with a slight re-design. Could probably even get 24 faders on a 61 key keyboard?
Why is there not a midi keyboard with more then 8 faders? (And yes I know theres the 9th master fader )
Looking at the layout of my Novation Launchkey 49, there would be enough room to get another 8 faders on there with a slight re-design. Could probably even get 24 faders on a 61 key keyboard?
Why is there not a midi keyboard with more then 8 faders? (And yes I know theres the 9th master fader )
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Could be a power issue, if running it USB powered?d-s-m wrote:Could probably even get 24 faders on a 61 key keyboard?
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Not at all. It's almost certainly simply that the majority of customers don't want sixteen faders and the cost of the additional faders would not be justified at the price points that they are targeting.Numanoid wrote:Could be a power issue, if running it USB powered?d-s-m wrote:Could probably even get 24 faders on a 61 key keyboard?
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- KVRian
- 702 posts since 19 Mar, 2014 from Denver, CO
Akai Max49 only has 8, but it has 4 banks of 8, so you don't get access to all 16 (or in this case, 32) at once, but you do have the ability to control up to 32 different items with the faders and switching between banks is just the push of one button on the controller.
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
And since they're not actually physical faders, that actually works fairly well. If, that is, you can get over the sticker shock.ImNotDedYet wrote:Akai Max49 only has 8, but it has 4 banks of 8, so you don't get access to all 16 (or in this case, 32) at once, but you do have the ability to control up to 32 different items with the faders and switching between banks is just the push of one button on the controller.
- KVRAF
- 4618 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K
I really wish there was a midi keyboard with no faders, no knobs, just a mod/pitch joystick, patch change, and volume and pan.
But a nice big blank area to put my own controller, comp keyboard, trackball.
But a nice big blank area to put my own controller, comp keyboard, trackball.
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- KVRAF
- 5139 posts since 27 Jun, 2004
Assemble your own: http://synthesizers.com/controllers.htmltopaz wrote:I really wish there was a midi keyboard with no faders, no knobs, just a mod/pitch joystick, patch change, and volume and pan.
But a nice big blank area to put my own controller, comp keyboard, trackball.
It would cost you a lot of money, but at least you get the highest quality available.
It's narrow, so no huge blank area, but you could improvise all kinds of things.
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- KVRAF
- 3080 posts since 17 Apr, 2005 from S.E. TN
Yep flat top keyboards sure are nice for many purposes. There are few nowadays, but occasional worthies.
Kawai has made many of their stage pianos flat tops. The controls are on a sloped panel between the keys and the flat top.
Kawai has made many of their stage pianos flat tops. The controls are on a sloped panel between the keys and the flat top.
- KVRAF
- 4618 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K
I keep 3 old yamaha sy55's for this reason,
I know how to take it apart and clean the keybed.
But I would love a new model
I know how to take it apart and clean the keybed.
But I would love a new model
- KVRAF
- 9216 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
Actually, the price isn't bad when you consider that you have four sequences per preset, four banks of pads, four banks of sliders, CV and gate outs, etc.ghettosynth wrote:And since they're not actually physical faders, that actually works fairly well. If, that is, you can get over the sticker shock.ImNotDedYet wrote:Akai Max49 only has 8, but it has 4 banks of 8, so you don't get access to all 16 (or in this case, 32) at once, but you do have the ability to control up to 32 different items with the faders and switching between banks is just the push of one button on the controller.
I bought a MAX49 right after it came out. There's a couple things that still need addressing IMO (the first firmware update addressed some issues that I had with it), but it's workable; a lot of people won't even miss what I think needs to be implemented. YMMV, of course.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 360 posts since 1 Nov, 2012 from England
I may have to invest in one of those Akai Max keyboards, really cool idea to have led faders. Having the physical faders in the wrong position when you switch between banks is a real PITA.ghettosynth wrote:And since they're not actually physical faders, that actually works fairly well. If, that is, you can get over the sticker shock.ImNotDedYet wrote:Akai Max49 only has 8, but it has 4 banks of 8, so you don't get access to all 16 (or in this case, 32) at once, but you do have the ability to control up to 32 different items with the faders and switching between banks is just the push of one button on the controller.
- KVRAF
- 3897 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
If you are okay with that kind of faders then an iPad running lemur or touchosc might be a good option. And you will have all controls you wish for.
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- KVRAF
- 35189 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
Except the keys ...rod_zero wrote:If you are okay with that kind of faders then an iPad running lemur or touchosc might be a good option. And you will have all controls you wish for.
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- KVRAF
- 15517 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
It's more than the keys, the physical constraints of the touch faders matters. I use my ipad a lot, but i is not a substitute for controls that are physically constrained in some way. I think that the touch faders are a decent compromise. You get instant recall, nothing vertical that gets in the way, but, you fingers are still constrained to the slider slot.thecontrolcentre wrote:Except the keys ...rod_zero wrote:If you are okay with that kind of faders then an iPad running lemur or touchosc might be a good option. And you will have all controls you wish for.
- KVRAF
- 3897 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
Well of course you will neeed seprate keys. My point was that fi you were considering the Max49 with it's touch faders then maybe the iPad was not a bad idea for you.
Touch faders are not the same, but they have advantages (custom templates, as many channels as you want, instant feedback, more controls, color coded, track name, etc) wich in my opinion overcome their weakness (no physical feedback).
Touch faders are not the same, but they have advantages (custom templates, as many channels as you want, instant feedback, more controls, color coded, track name, etc) wich in my opinion overcome their weakness (no physical feedback).
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