Is Sugarbyte Thesys the best stepsequencer out there?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1141 posts since 2 Feb, 2005
Thanks Blackwinny, I didn't read the details and haven't seen the Utube things.... so I didn't aware that it is for Bass GT ..hahaBlackWinny wrote:You talk about B-Step Sequencer I think. It is very specialized to make lines of a bass guitar (it reproduces the four strings of the neck of a bass axe with the synthesis included, etc.) But it has good features based on the circle of fifth. It is very different from a classical step-sequencer.cowby wrote:Just found a vst-plug called b-step ...... but am still in the office.
Will try to have a detail look at this one.
anyone tried or own it ?
Cheers~
They have made also a step-sequencer in the same spirit but for... 6 strings of a guitar! It's called CYTHAR. Very specialized too. And this one is free for the moment because it is still a beta version.
I have never tried them, neither the first nor the second, but I'm interested to test the second as long as it is free...
- KVRAF
- 2392 posts since 29 Jun, 2005 from La La Land
I have tried every single arpeggiator and step sequencer out there and they are all garbage except for Thesys and Cthulhu. Thesys is the most powerful step sequencer out there. It's only shortcoming is that it is not an arpeggiator as in you play chord, out comes a melody pattern. Everything else is covered in Thesys. I highly recommend it. You won't regret that purchase if you're really into messing around with triggerable step sequencers. If you are looking for the best arpeggiator out there then Cthulhu is the best one ever made. It not only does totally custom arpeggios, it does chord triggering as well. I just wish they'd remove the stupid squid thing on the GUI but other than that, you won't find a better arp out there.
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- KVRAF
- 25464 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
I like Kirnu Cream better as an Arp than Cthulhu... (I have both)Orbit-50 wrote:I have tried every single arpeggiator and step sequencer out there and they are all garbage except for Thesys and Cthulhu. Thesys is the most powerful step sequencer out there. It's only shortcoming is that it is not an arpeggiator as in you play chord, out comes a melody pattern. Everything else is covered in Thesys. I highly recommend it. You won't regret that purchase if you're really into messing around with triggerable step sequencers. If you are looking for the best arpeggiator out there then Cthulhu is the best one ever made. It not only does totally custom arpeggios, it does chord triggering as well. I just wish they'd remove the stupid squid thing on the GUI but other than that, you won't find a better arp out there.
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- KVRAF
- 4534 posts since 17 Jun, 2013 from very close to Paris, France
It depends the complexity of what is to be done.pdxindy wrote:I like Kirnu Cream better as an Arp than Cthulhu... (I have both)Orbit-50 wrote:I have tried every single arpeggiator and step sequencer out there and they are all garbage except for Thesys and Cthulhu. Thesys is the most powerful step sequencer out there. It's only shortcoming is that it is not an arpeggiator as in you play chord, out comes a melody pattern. Everything else is covered in Thesys. I highly recommend it. You won't regret that purchase if you're really into messing around with triggerable step sequencers. If you are looking for the best arpeggiator out there then Cthulhu is the best one ever made. It not only does totally custom arpeggios, it does chord triggering as well. I just wish they'd remove the stupid squid thing on the GUI but other than that, you won't find a better arp out there.
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For simple (and also less simple) sequences, I use Kirnu or BlueArp.
But yes, for very complex sequences (overlapped voice triggers for example), they are totally out of their depth... And it's normal, anybody can't ask them something as dreadfully complex. Therefore at this moment I pass the baby to Cthulhu.
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- KVRAF
- 2392 posts since 29 Jun, 2005 from La La Land
That's cool. I tried to like Kirnu and almost thought it was great but I just couldn't get past the fact that you couldn't tie notes and some other whacked erratic behavior with the looping that pissed me off. I forgot what it was exactly but I finally deleted it after that. I just feel that it's not finished and the guy gives no real support in his forum so it's one of those "I'll just wait and see if it gets a decent update and I'll try it again in the future. I definitely won't hold my breath though.pdxindy wrote:I like Kirnu Cream better as an Arp than Cthulhu... (I have both)
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Alienware i7 R3 loaded with billions of DAWS and plugins.
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- KVRAF
- 25464 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
yeah, not being able to tie notes is a glaring deficiency... and you are right about some erratic behavior... However, Cthulhu has its own deficiencies too...Orbit-50 wrote:That's cool. I tried to like Kirnu and almost thought it was great but I just couldn't get past the fact that you couldn't tie notes and some other whacked erratic behavior with the looping that pissed me off. I forgot what it was exactly but I finally deleted it after that. I just feel that it's not finished and the guy gives no real support in his forum so it's one of those "I'll just wait and see if it gets a decent update and I'll try it again in the future. I definitely won't hold my breath though.pdxindy wrote:I like Kirnu Cream better as an Arp than Cthulhu... (I have both)
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Neither of them are the arp I wish to have... maybe someday...
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- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
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- KVRist
- 278 posts since 1 May, 2003
I know its a host but Metro 7 has the revolution ARP. IMHO it is the most configurable..
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- KVRist
- 158 posts since 27 May, 2013
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- KVRist
- 158 posts since 27 May, 2013
* a freebie I use a lot is hypercyclic by mucoder (Mac, Windows) /
* Reaper also has one that's included called - Sequencer Baby V2 by jnif (Reaper) **
* Reaper also has one that's included called - Sequencer Baby V2 by jnif (Reaper) **
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- KVRist
- 442 posts since 21 Jan, 2008
Era is not bad also (father of thesys)
http://www.sugar-bytes.com/content/prod ... p?lang=de#
http://www.sugar-bytes.com/content/prod ... p?lang=de#
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- Banned
- 327 posts since 24 Jul, 2013
Whoa Simon Posford is on KVR... the finest electronic musician ever to grace this planet.
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- KVRian
- 1092 posts since 1 Jul, 2008
Thesys I bought but never gelled with for some reason. I stuck with ERA2 - it's soo powerful.Simon Posford wrote:Era is not bad also (father of thesys)
http://www.sugar-bytes.com/content/prod ... p?lang=de#
I wish Holger would come back and finish Phrazor