Envelope Filter Plugin for bass/guitar

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I haven't found a satisfactory envelope filter plugin that responds well to live bass/guitar input. Specifically with bass as the affected frequencies have to be pretty specific to really get that squelch.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

I have Fabfilter's Volcano 3 - which I view as my most comprehensive filter plugin. But alas, I'm not sophisticated enough - or familiar with the parameters of a good envelope filter - to design a sound that I'm happy with.

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I'm just starting to play with this myself. Softube's Mutronics Mutator looks like a good bet at the moment.

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n8pee wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 4:32 pm I haven't found a satisfactory envelope filter plugin that responds well to live bass/guitar input. Specifically with bass as the affected frequencies have to be pretty specific to really get that squelch.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

I have Fabfilter's Volcano 3 - which I view as my most comprehensive filter plugin. But alas, I'm not sophisticated enough - or familiar with the parameters of a good envelope filter - to design a sound that I'm happy with.
I should add another reason I haven't found a suitable plugin is the response to sensitivity - i.e., the filter should dynamically change based on level/input - whether that is resonance or frequency or both?

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Volcano 3 should be great for this. You can add a low pass filter and modulate the filter cutoff with an envelope follower:
https://www.fabfilter.com/help/volcano/using/ef

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SonicDimension wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 3:14 am Volcano 3 should be great for this. You can add a low pass filter and modulate the filter cutoff with an envelope follower:
https://www.fabfilter.com/help/volcano/using/ef (https://www.fabfilter.com/help/volcano/using/ef)
I took another stap at creating one that uses a low pass filter, with the freq triggered by 'smooth transients' and didn't find it satisfactory. The 'Hollow' setting sounded best, but still nothing like what I expect a good envelope filter to sound like (comparing my experience to stomp boxes). I also tried having the same transient also pronounce the peak of the resonance, but still not feeling it.

I actually think it sounds a bit better using a high pass filter and approaching the signal from the bottom frequencies (with bass).

Anyhow this makes me realize that a good envelope filter isn't as simple as this.

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An oldie but a goodie, can usually be found on sale for a tenner or so.;

https://www.plugandmix.com/products/p1690-Moogy-Filter/

Never heard anything else to quite match it on guitar or bass. Here's a little demo of my bass VI - first clean DI, then through just the plug-in, at half resonance... :scared:


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PrMTDr ... sp=sharing

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donkey tugger wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:00 pm An oldie but a goodie, can usually be found on sale for a tenner or so.;

https://www.plugandmix.com/products/p1690-Moogy-Filter/

Never heard anything else to quite match it on guitar or bass. Here's a little demo of my bass VI - first clean DI, then through just the plug-in, at half resonance... :scared:


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PrMTDr ... sp=sharing
Sounds great! Also try:

https://www.kuassa.com/products/efektor ... ah-filter/

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Uncle E wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:34 pm
donkey tugger wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:00 pm An oldie but a goodie, can usually be found on sale for a tenner or so.;

https://www.plugandmix.com/products/p1690-Moogy-Filter/

Never heard anything else to quite match it on guitar or bass. Here's a little demo of my bass VI - first clean DI, then through just the plug-in, at half resonance... :scared:


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PrMTDr ... sp=sharing
Sounds great
It also has the most bonkers self-oscillation I've ever come across at high resonance settings - all kinds of feedback-y type goodness. :love:

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n8pee wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 5:44 pm Anyhow this makes me realize that a good envelope filter isn't as simple as this.
I came to the same conclusion, haha.

i even tryed to patch a keytracking in VCV Rack2. Taking a pitch2CV module.
I never arrived to where i hoped i could come.


donkey tugger wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:00 pm Never heard anything else to quite match it on guitar or bass. Here's a little demo of my bass VI - first clean DI, then through just the plug-in, at half resonance... :scared:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PrMTDr ... sp=sharing
+1, sounds great !

on Mac, running on Rosetta2 only.

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