You should make a cover of Orinoco Flow.
Synthesizers with diversity of presets
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 10 Jan, 2020
- KVRian
- 1136 posts since 21 Jul, 2012
It is not clear to me if the video's you posted are the type of sounds you are looking for (which are bog standard an ubiquitous).VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:26 am I pretty much use Vital for 90% of the stuff i make. Most of the time i start with an existing preset and tweak it until i get the sound i want which is way easier than starting from scratch
Same here,actually doubt ,that 'from scratch' is popular sentence,but real thing.
It doesn't matter starting point,but final result.
I like Serum,but Vital has more options in some areas without been superior,cause have issues as any other synth.
Too many synths i am starting interesting projects with and then go back to familiar ones.
Maybe that hold back creativity.
Vital is still never used anywhere,could be nice to add something with it.
If have to only lone synth as fresh touch will be Thorn.
There is some limitations,not many presets,but there is something really fresh in it and with discount price drop to 25-29 euro.
Supersaw -ish stuff will be more recognizable with it,than with Massive,Sylenth1,Viper,Serum or Spire cause these are so overused last decade.
Conversation about synth gives me some ideas.
Maybe i don't need to follow typical euro dance line,which is so familiar,but to start using synths as inspiration.
To see where i am stuck with mixing and morphing,try to imagine a track as mix of these with 130 bpm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWRTPmzI3mY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw8wq4daxxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctARV0q6aV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I
- KVRian
- 1307 posts since 2 Oct, 2016 from Planet X-19
I will Cholet consider it
- KVRian
- 1005 posts since 10 Oct, 2002 from Barcelona
Think about classic synths, they're limited in some ways, some of those classic sounds are really easy to recreate, but of course, mixing results are always a bit far from easy to achieve, you can even get a better mix, but it's too hard to get the exact interaction without a reference console clone.VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:26 amSame here,actually doubt ,that 'from scratch' is popular sentence,but real thing.I pretty much use Vital for 90% of the stuff i make. Most of the time i start with an existing preset and tweak it until i get the sound i want which is way easier than starting from scratch
It doesn't matter starting point,but final result.
I like Serum,but Vital has more options in some areas without been superior,cause have issues as any other synth.
Too many synths i am starting interesting projects with and then go back to familiar ones.
Maybe that hold back creativity.
Vital is still never used anywhere,could be nice to add something with it.
If have to only lone synth as fresh touch will be Thorn.
There is some limitations,not many presets,but there is something really fresh in it and with discount price drop to 25-29 euro.
Supersaw -ish stuff will be more recognizable with it,than with Massive,Sylenth1,Viper,Serum or Spire cause these are so overused last decade.
Conversation about synth gives me some ideas.
Maybe i don't need to follow typical euro dance line,which is so familiar,but to start using synths as inspiration.
To see where i am stuck with mixing and morphing,try to imagine a track as mix of these with 130 bpm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWRTPmzI3mY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw8wq4daxxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctARV0q6aV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I
The fact is that if you stick with simple synths like Nordlead/MS20/Juno106/TB303/SH101 or their emulations, you'll find it easier to get those sounds than using complex wavetable stuff like Vital/Massive/... Stick to TAL free ones, Charlatan V2, Synth1 and a proper Roland D/JV/XV, Yamaha TG & Korg M1/Wavestation for pads. You can even use soundfonts with a tiny processing to get tihose classics. Of course, emulations like Arturia/Cherry Audio/GForce/... help a lot in the design as some famous presets are already mimmicked.
- KVRian
- 1005 posts since 10 Oct, 2002 from Barcelona
That's a Roland D + Korg Wavestation + M1 job. The Enya hardware list at the time was really limited.
- KVRAF
- 2305 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:47 pm If a man need a soft synth with a diversity of presets for commercial production,which synth you'd recommend to have enough,so to cover all modern styles?
If a woman need a soft synth with a diversity of presets would that be different? (or a boy or a girl?)
Same question.Actually as the wisdom said - one man trash is another man treasure
on topic: to cover all styles of music?
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- KVRAF
- 2305 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
That's a joke, right?
Or you mean emulations?
Yes, but can you do it all with just one note?vurt: i only need one sound to make something cool
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- KVRist
- 56 posts since 23 Mar, 2024
We all know what 2 hands clapping sounds like.. but…CrystalWizard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:07 amThat's a joke, right?
Or you mean emulations?
Yes, but can you do it all with just one note?vurt: i only need one sound to make something cool
…. What 1 hand clapping sounds like…
And if tree falls in the forest and no one is around, what does it sound like…?
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- addled muppet weed
- 106034 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
only if you expect me to play live keysCrystalWizard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:07 amYes, but can you do it all with just one note?vurt: i only need one sound to make something cool
- KVRAF
- 2258 posts since 25 Sep, 2014 from Specific Northwest
I only play the dead keys. It's a win/win for everyone.vurt wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:55 pmonly if you expect me to play live keysCrystalWizard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:07 amYes, but can you do it all with just one note?vurt: i only need one sound to make something cool
I started on Logic 5 with a PowerBook G4 550Mhz. I now have a MacBook Air M1 and it's ~165x faster! So, why is my music not proportionally better?
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- KVRist
- 345 posts since 1 Jul, 2023
I think Vital has some features which allow one to create original, somewhat unique sounds and that is the resynthesise preset function. Do that with a simple sine wave with pitch modulated by a triangle LFO. Yields many unusable textures, but some very nice. Bounce to wav, throw into Serum and cut out the best frames. On the subject of Serum, the hybridise preset function is also useful for getting less conventional sounds using what can be mundane building blocks. Also Serums resampling method is good, and the convert last played sound to audio.
Presets are great and I use them, but with the tools most of us have, claiming to be unable to make something unique and interesting just doesn't ring true for me.
Presets are great and I use them, but with the tools most of us have, claiming to be unable to make something unique and interesting just doesn't ring true for me.
- KVRAF
- 15041 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Sure there is. I was playing with Current today and its unique filter types got me sounds that couldn’t be produced by any other synth. Even Repro has enough extra going on that it can sound like a Prophet 5 from the future. You could easily mimic its features in another synth, but not retain the great analog emulation.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2084 posts since 19 Sep, 2017 from The Future
Good point,but it seems as something in theory,than practical.swilow11 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:56 am I think Vital has some features which allow one to create original, somewhat unique sounds and that is the resynthesise preset function. Do that with a simple sine wave with pitch modulated by a triangle LFO. Yields many unusable textures, but some very nice. Bounce to wav, throw into Serum and cut out the best frames. On the subject of Serum, the hybridise preset function is also useful for getting less conventional sounds using what can be mundane building blocks. Also Serums resampling method is good, and the convert last played sound to audio.
Presets are great and I use them, but with the tools most of us have, claiming to be unable to make something unique and interesting just doesn't ring true for me.
Try to make a euro dance track and you will see.
I have at least 50 presets last 2 months i made chasing that unique sound (or at least ordinary listener will recognize them as somehow unique)but in combination a track become weird and so far away from the genre you can't call it euro dance anymore.
So i admit i am not a genre oriented designer,like more experimental stuff.
Probably better to stay fan of euro dance and to try modern stuff like techno,cyberpunk so on,which are still in development and i can create and already have a lot of new stuff.
90s sound isn't hard to remade or even to make something better with synth like Vital,but it's waste of time to me to do same things 30 years ago people use in popular genres.
Dare to say i am able to make way more interesting sounds as harmonic content and presence in the mix with modern synths.
By the way for typical 90s sound Firebird,Synth1,tal-noisemaker and V-station can do same if not better sound we used to listen back in the days on tape.
Just use appropriate sound and add a tape saturation.
Especially on bass is amazing,if the bass line miss a spark.
I don't know,maybe some stuff have to stay what they are and can't be modernized/improved.
I like 90s euro dance,cause it's catchy and melodic,sometimes enthusiasts do decent remixes,but that's all i guess,the style has it's glory moment but probably in 2024 need to look into different genres,where i can do my best with modern synths.
Honestly i think popular styles now are faceless and lack of original sound,man can't say what's the difference between two song labeled as different genres,everything is edm oriented.
Modern pop is more edm,that what people used to call pop back in the days.
House music is so mixed with other styles.
I wanted my start point to be euro dance,cause it was really unique music back in the days,everybody loved it,but now i don't know,everything is blur with tons of fx,can't hear the melody,if by accident a song have such
Probably have to try my own style,may become something,like do you remember a style called Dub step - it was a single preset woble something and everybody couple of years use similar sound everywhere,despite it was absolutely awful to my taste,but modern
Will focus on Vital and Thorn for more fresh ideas and sonic content.
Specially Thorn is super under rated imho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYQ-O5AFqY4