Monitors for a small semi-treated room (Dynaudio BM5 mkIII or Dynaudio LYD7? EDIT: bought Dynaudio Bm5 MkIII)

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KRK RP G3

That's what I have now btw.

They have some issues with upper midrange harshness, because of which my mixes tend to sound too dark and dull as I'm trying to tame these frequencies more than actually needed.

[roman.i]

BTW, if you've got issues in the room you better fix your room instead of using the Reference software. It's expensive, instead you can buy a cheap Behringer mic, measure the room and fix with the DIY acoustics if needed.

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BTW, if you've got issues in the room you better fix your room instead using the Reference software. It's expensive, instead you can buy a cheap Behringer mic, measure the room and fix with the DIY acoustics if needed.

I think that harshness is not the room issue, I used these monitors in 4 different rooms and always noticed that to some extent (the old rooms all were untreated so there were all kinds of other issues but this one was more or less persistent)

In the current room I think I've done as much acoustic treatment as physically possible, considering it's my living room.

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Frankly I didn't bother with checking the Fluids just because of the price, they are cheaper than my current KRKs A bit hard to beliveve they would be comparable in quality to Dynaudios or Adams in the price range I'm targeting. But if they are, then great, will check them out

Try them, don't let low price fool you, they might surprise you, you wouldn't be the first one, those guys doesn't have brand recognition to ask that much, it's Kevin Zuccaro from JBL, mostly all these new exciting brands are just people who left other big brands and want to do it their way, it's China made of course, like many others, so they all got cheaper across the board these days.

Dynaudio BM6A MK1 were all the rage more than decade ago in trance circles and original A series Adams, but newer revisions weren't improvements actually, but they kinda kept old glory, what was really killing it from both companies all the time are more expensive offerings, that stands for KRK too, so their budget solutions were always priced higher than rest.

I know the pain, most local stores don't have most of the offerings in stock, what they have are usual suspects, which sell the most too probably.

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Thanks, will check out these Fluids.

BM6A is out of my budget

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Would you consider EVE, another take from ex Adam employee, more regarded and improved on that concept than original A series, fit your price range.

[toonertik]

BTW, if you've got issues in the room you better fix your room instead using the Reference software. It's expensive, instead you can buy a cheap Behringer mic, measure the room and fix with the DIY acoustics if needed.

I think that harshness is not the room issue, I used these monitors in 4 different rooms and always noticed that to some extent (the old rooms all were untreated so there were all kinds of other issues but this one was more or less persistent)

In the current room I think I've done as much acoustic treatment as physically possible, considering it's my living room.

You might try adding some MVL (mass loaded vinyl) behind the rockwool.. it will not change the dimensions but add mass to the trap...
It is used by these guys..

https://www.primacoustic.com/maxtrap/specifications/


this sort of material...

https://www.studiospares.com/Studio-Gea ... lsrc=aw.ds
it's also used in cars.. so can sometimes be bought from car audio specialists...

It has lots of MASS for it's thickness... absorbing/taking energy from low frequencies..

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You might try adding some MVL (mass loaded vinyl) behind the rockwool.. it will not change the dimensions but add mass to the trap...
It is used by these guys..

https://www.primacoustic.com/maxtrap/specifications/


this sort of material...

https://www.studiospares.com/Studio-Gea ... lsrc=aw.ds
it's also used in cars.. so can sometimes be bought from car audio specialists...

It has lots of MASS for it's thickness... absorbing/taking energy from low frequencies..

Thanks, didn't know about this material. If/when I decide to update my treatment, will consider it.

Would you consider EVE, another take from ex Adam employee, more regarded and improved on that concept than original A series, fit your price range.

Well, I'm sure there are lots of quality monitors out there... But I don't really want to get lost in trying out various models - in my city where I can barely find any decent speakers in our showrooms, this would mean bying stuff online and selling it, most probably with some money loss, so it may quickly get expensive.

I think I'd be more safe if I stick to some popular model that fits my room dimenstions and get used to its sound. That's why I pretty much narrowed the choice down to these Dynaudios

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I think I'd be more safe if I stick to some popular model that fits my room dimenstions and get used to its sound. That's why I pretty much narrowed the choice down to these Dynaudios

Sure, I understood you want to play safe so that's the reason I mentioned EVE's, quite regarded and safe ones, not living on any past glories like Adam, but truly deserved their place being better monitors than Adam from the get go, you can find lot of info about them that still holds truth if you decide to give them consideration, quite bummer you don't have preference about ribbon tweeters, than this will be much more easier choice.

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I think I'd be more safe if I stick to some popular model that fits my room dimenstions and get used to its sound. That's why I pretty much narrowed the choice down to these Dynaudios

Sure, I understood you want to play safe so that's the reason I mentioned EVE's, quite regarded and safe ones, not living on any past glories like Adam, but truly deserved their place being better monitors than Adam from the get go, you can find lot of info about them that still holds truth if you decide to give them consideration, quite bummer you don't have preference about ribbon tweeters, than this will be much more easier choice.

Wow, EVE AUDIO SC207, 6.5 inch woofer, fits the target price and goes bundled with Sonarworks Reference 4 with the mic

Will look for more info on them, thanks a lot.

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Wow, EVE AUDIO SC207, 6.5 inch woofer, fits the target price and goes bundled with Sonarworks Reference 4 with the mic

Will look for more info on them, thanks a lot.

Awesome, this is nice thread, hope it will help you, really wish you make the best out of this situation and get monitors you will love.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much ... there.html

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Awesome, this is nice thread, hope it will help you, really wish you make the best out of this situation and get monitors you will love.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much ... there.html

Despite most users say EVEs sound very nice, quite a few people report build quality issues in that thread

Also one guy said the 208s soudned too nice to actually mix in them, like they were making the mixes sound better than they actually were. Kind of more audiophile speakers than monitors

Thanks anyway, will do more research.

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Despite most users say EVEs sound very nice, quite a few people report build quality issues in that thread

They all are mass produced in that price range and it happens you get faulty one, it's not the rule, some folks never had issues, some do, I returned some stuff too, it's risk to take in that price range, they don't test every speaker and all the parts that go into making one, it happens, something craps out, nothing is perfect.

Also one guy said the 208s soudned too nice to actually mix in them, like they were making the mixes sound better than they actually were. Kind of more audiophile speakers than monitors

That's just one opinion, if you go through whole 13 pages, you can see general consensus about them, that's why I left you that thread so you can get good, bad and ugly and form your own opinion, it's good to have thread like that in one place, mostly people ask about one vs another, someone chime in about why they prefer one or another and that's it, than all over the place you can find threads about problems and etc, here you have everything in one place, I didn't saw any showstoppers or serial mistakes, like Adam rattle which affects every model and it's design choice fault and etc, so to put things in perspective, both Dynaudio and EVE have track record of problems, it's the price to pay for mass production.

[andymcbain]

quite bummer you don't have preference about ribbon tweeters, than this will be much more easier choice.

I know I certainly have a preference - I find them too forward sounding and distracting, or certainly in the Adam A7X that I've used and the very small pair of Eve SC203 that I own. I thought the 203 would be great for mobile work but I just can't get on board with them really. YMMV, of course.

It's certainly possible to get used to the sound of a pair of monitors, but these days I would prefer to A/B compare different models in a shop - even if that meant going home with something a bit less exciting than the hottest new product being discussed on the web. Which brands do your local places stock?

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quite bummer you don't have preference about ribbon tweeters, than this will be much more easier choice.

I know I certainly have a preference - I find them too forward sounding and distracting, or certainly in the Adam A7X that I've used and the very small pair of Eve SC203 that I own. I thought the 203 would be great for mobile work but I just can't get on board with them really. YMMV, of course.

Exactly, seems it's mostly love or hate thing, I just love them for getting perfect clicks on kicks and etc, nothing comes close IMO, but overall find them over the top and distracting for casual listening, so it's good maybe to have more than one pair, but if I have to choose, would go for ribbon, detail is amazing and I always crave for it.

It's certainly possible to get used to the sound of a pair of monitors, but these days I would prefer to A/B compare different models in a shop - even if that meant going home with something a bit less exciting than the hottest new product being discussed on the web.

Agree.