What's the closest thing to Bazille in a real Eurorack?
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- KVRist
- 83 posts since 19 Jul, 2008
For the pure FM side of things this is worth looking at: https://humble.audio.
There's also Akemie's Castle. And I think there are a few PD modules out there now.
Meaningful four-voice poly is now possible in Eurorack (Doepfer is selling a line of modules geared toward this).
But trying to make a full hardware modular bazille will run many thousands of USD and might require it's own small room.
I love hardware modular synthesis, but working with Bazille and Zebra (and now Kyma too) has made hardware, for me, only function well as a (very) forced-limitations tool. Which can be a good thing. But I go back to the software because it can take me places the modular just can't (albeit with major performance compromises due to the lack of physicality and resulting limited spontaneity).
But I understand the desire. I dream of Zebra and Bazille with super hi-res hardware knobs and faders for every param on every module. And full patchability. But physical reality doesn't want to cooperate with the dreams these marvelous software tools inspire.
There's also Akemie's Castle. And I think there are a few PD modules out there now.
Meaningful four-voice poly is now possible in Eurorack (Doepfer is selling a line of modules geared toward this).
But trying to make a full hardware modular bazille will run many thousands of USD and might require it's own small room.
I love hardware modular synthesis, but working with Bazille and Zebra (and now Kyma too) has made hardware, for me, only function well as a (very) forced-limitations tool. Which can be a good thing. But I go back to the software because it can take me places the modular just can't (albeit with major performance compromises due to the lack of physicality and resulting limited spontaneity).
But I understand the desire. I dream of Zebra and Bazille with super hi-res hardware knobs and faders for every param on every module. And full patchability. But physical reality doesn't want to cooperate with the dreams these marvelous software tools inspire.
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- KVRAF
- 25459 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Bazille has 16 voices...
unison...
each module output can have as many wires as you want...
extensive midi control...
multiple instances...
full MPE support...
presets...
It is not possible to get close to Bazille in Eurorack.
I'd happily pay thousands of dollars for a slick hardware Bazille from u-he.
unison...
each module output can have as many wires as you want...
extensive midi control...
multiple instances...
full MPE support...
presets...
It is not possible to get close to Bazille in Eurorack.
I'd happily pay thousands of dollars for a slick hardware Bazille from u-he.
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grandmasterbird grandmasterbird https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=134988
- KVRist
- 363 posts since 7 Jan, 2007
Am I right in thinking that instead of set operator algorithms (as per your classic DX style of FM), in bazille you essentially create your own operator algorithms by patching it however you choose?
Not sure if I'm 100% making sense as I'm trying to get to grips with FM- Zebra's implementation of FM has actually helped a lot in that regard
Not sure if I'm 100% making sense as I'm trying to get to grips with FM- Zebra's implementation of FM has actually helped a lot in that regard
- KVRAF
- 4123 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
Yep, as it's modular. Why not check out the demo…grandmasterbird wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:24 pm Am I right in thinking that instead of set operator algorithms (as per your classic DX style of FM), in bazille you essentially create your own operator algorithms by patching it however you choose?
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grandmasterbird grandmasterbird https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=134988
- KVRist
- 363 posts since 7 Jan, 2007
Thanks. Yes I tried the demo some time ago, I loved the way it sounded but found it a bewildering experience!Howard wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:08 pmYep, as it's modular. Why not check out the demo…grandmasterbird wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:24 pm Am I right in thinking that instead of set operator algorithms (as per your classic DX style of FM), in bazille you essentially create your own operator algorithms by patching it however you choose?
Maybe with a bit more knowledge it's now time to revisit
- KVRAF
- 4123 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
I recommend studying what the manual says about the oscillators. Only 5 pages, but...grandmasterbird wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:58 pm Maybe with a bit more knowledge it's now time to revisit
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- KVRAF
- 4123 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany