My timing is precise but ... inaccurate.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2185 posts since 25 Jan, 2007 from the back room, away from his wife's sight (or so he thinks)
Yup, as title says.
Been playing guitar forever, mostly in my bedroom just noodling, and now that I'm trying to record some more "serious" things I'm noticing more and more my deficiencies in this area. In particular the following: My timing tends to be mostly correct in context with each other, but I have a tendency to consistently pick early. Even funkier, when I'm trying to record a part and try to stay accurate, I tend to get the first 1-3 notes "correct" but then drift off into being consistently early again. Funnily enough, it usually sounds okay-ish while recording, but then sounds bananas during playback. It's not a sound card issue, as I've been able to reproduce this on several setups, and it also happens when I play on the MIDI controller (so really it's not specific to guitar but that's the important instrument).
This seems to be ingrained into my brain and I have no idea how to break out of this. Any tips?
Been playing guitar forever, mostly in my bedroom just noodling, and now that I'm trying to record some more "serious" things I'm noticing more and more my deficiencies in this area. In particular the following: My timing tends to be mostly correct in context with each other, but I have a tendency to consistently pick early. Even funkier, when I'm trying to record a part and try to stay accurate, I tend to get the first 1-3 notes "correct" but then drift off into being consistently early again. Funnily enough, it usually sounds okay-ish while recording, but then sounds bananas during playback. It's not a sound card issue, as I've been able to reproduce this on several setups, and it also happens when I play on the MIDI controller (so really it's not specific to guitar but that's the important instrument).
This seems to be ingrained into my brain and I have no idea how to break out of this. Any tips?
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- KVRAF
- 5142 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
I have found my timing has improved by jamming to Raggatek.
It helps to detune 4 semitones downward to me
Maybe the right drum track or backing rhythms?
njoy!
It helps to detune 4 semitones downward to me
Maybe the right drum track or backing rhythms?
njoy!
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- KVRAF
- 6804 posts since 20 Jan, 2008
A lot of jazz musicians work on slowing tempos down then... work at being ahead (pushing) or behind (dragging) the beat. This is something that will help every artist.
Also... Practice in the morning Perform at Night.
Also... Practice in the morning Perform at Night.
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 12621 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
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- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
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- addled muppet weed
- 105855 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- addled muppet weed
- 105855 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
like the shadows?
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- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
- KVRAF
- 5958 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK
Is materialism devouring your musical output?
- Boss Lovin' DR
- 12621 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Not a bad call sometimes...
One of my mates is utterly shite at keeping time just by listening, but if he watches the kick drum on a VU meter or something like that, then he's miles better. For some people the visual cues must be more effective.
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- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
I think that metronomes are useful. However, I still think that it's good to try and cultivate movement physical to help keep the beat. My suggestion to try dancing is that you'll be able to find out if the problem is a lack of innate timing. It need not be anything elaborate. In fact, smaller movements are better, as these can then be transferred playing/recording. Whether it's the tapping of a foot, or the nodding of a head - Having that pulse running through the body can really help with keeping timing on-point.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105855 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
so, drumming while dancing at the same time as staring at a metronome.
you should be steve vai by this time next week
you should be steve vai by this time next week
- Banned
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
only if it's a drum machine, otherwise, turn them down
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- addled muppet weed
- 105855 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
good tiptapper mike wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:35 pm A lot of jazz musicians work on slowing tempos down then... work at being ahead (pushing) or behind (dragging) the beat. This is something that will help every artist.
Also... Practice in the morning Perform at Night.
dont worry about your timing and tell everyone its jazz