Yeah, I would never buy Amplitube or any of IK's products because of this approach - prefer to have what I have bought and organise it my way not have a shopfront in my face every time I use a plugin.an-electric-heart wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:48 amthe thing about Amplitube that really turns me off is the way that you go through the browser, and all models you don't own are there... but locked. It's just cluttered and ugly... just don't have them there until I buy it. It just seems like an underhanded way to deliberately make Amplitube seem incomplete, and we're constantly being pushing to buy more.
Whooops... gone waaaaay off track.
So... Is Guitar Rig dead?
- KVRAF
- 35297 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
- KVRAF
- 6982 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Exactly my thoughts
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- KVRAF
- 15008 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
While I don’t use any plugin for my guitar amp needs (I’m full Kemper), I do sill go to Guitar Rig as a general multi effects processor. I feel it works better on synths than on guitars.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 12 May, 2008
I definitely agree with this and I've told them as much over support. It should not be installing presets and models that you don't own. Such a cheap and annoying way to show you what you don't have. And the fact that presets are there in the browser that you don't always know you can't open until you try, that is just B.S.aMUSEd wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:01 pmYeah, I would never buy Amplitube or any of IK's products because of this approach - prefer to have what I have bought and organise it my way not have a shopfront in my face every time I use a plugin.an-electric-heart wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:48 amthe thing about Amplitube that really turns me off is the way that you go through the browser, and all models you don't own are there... but locked. It's just cluttered and ugly... just don't have them there until I buy it. It just seems like an underhanded way to deliberately make Amplitube seem incomplete, and we're constantly being pushing to buy more.
Whooops... gone waaaaay off track.
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- KVRAF
- 1858 posts since 26 Nov, 2018
I think you are over-reacting. It's not a huge thing and the sound is better imho. If we ditched stuff for what is termed "shady marketing" you'd have to give up electric, wifi, 95% of the software you use and most (if not all) appliances and computers.
It's just a software company. I'm not going to get on my high horse and say this is anything but a shill but GR is certainly dead as far as development and there are plenty of good options.
As far as them switching to AT? I cry bullocks. But GR is dead development wise. Use what works for you, NI isn't exactly benign in it's marketing sometimes.
It's just a software company. I'm not going to get on my high horse and say this is anything but a shill but GR is certainly dead as far as development and there are plenty of good options.
As far as them switching to AT? I cry bullocks. But GR is dead development wise. Use what works for you, NI isn't exactly benign in it's marketing sometimes.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 12 May, 2008
I can't tell who you are replying to but if directed at the discussion above about the locked presets, it isn't just that it's marketing, it's functionally annoying. I can't think of one other product that includes presets in it's browser that you can't use because you don't own. It simply makes preset browsing a worse experience. Otherwise I like Amplitube (I have Max).reggie1979 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:23 am I think you are over-reacting. It's not a huge thing and the sound is better imho. If we ditched stuff for what is termed "shady marketing" you'd have to give up electric, wifi, 95% of the software you use and most (if not all) appliances and computers.
It's just a software company. I'm not going to get on my high horse and say this is anything but a shill but GR is certainly dead as far as development and there are plenty of good options.
As far as them switching to AT? I cry bullocks. But GR is dead development wise. Use what works for you, NI isn't exactly benign in it's marketing sometimes.
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- KVRAF
- 1858 posts since 26 Nov, 2018
Totally confused. Sorry.Echoes in the Attic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:46 amI can't tell who you are replying to but if directed at the discussion above about the locked presets, it isn't just that it's marketing, it's functionally annoying. I can't think of one other product that includes presets in it's browser that you can't use because you don't own. It simply makes preset browsing a worse experience. Otherwise I like Amplitube (I have Max).reggie1979 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:23 am I think you are over-reacting. It's not a huge thing and the sound is better imho. If we ditched stuff for what is termed "shady marketing" you'd have to give up electric, wifi, 95% of the software you use and most (if not all) appliances and computers.
It's just a software company. I'm not going to get on my high horse and say this is anything but a shill but GR is certainly dead as far as development and there are plenty of good options.
As far as them switching to AT? I cry bullocks. But GR is dead development wise. Use what works for you, NI isn't exactly benign in it's marketing sometimes.
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- KVRian
- 1181 posts since 27 May, 2008
Well if you dont own something don't click on it silly.
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- KVRAF
- 1858 posts since 26 Nov, 2018
?????????????acousticglue wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:11 am Well if you dont own something don't click on it silly.
I have owned and used both. What do you mean? Are you referring to the OP?????
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- KVRAF
- 1858 posts since 26 Nov, 2018
You know what the opposite definition of "fanboi" is? It's "haters gonna hate" and that is what I see here.
No f........ing way did Peter or anyone else from IK shine this on. It's some dope who wanted to get a rise (and did) with people calling each other out over NOTHING.
USE WHAT YOU WANT, THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER
No f........ing way did Peter or anyone else from IK shine this on. It's some dope who wanted to get a rise (and did) with people calling each other out over NOTHING.
USE WHAT YOU WANT, THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER
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- KVRAF
- 1858 posts since 26 Nov, 2018
- KVRAF
- 2286 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
I think he meant the OP.
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if this post is edited -it was for punctuation, grammar, or to make it coherent (or make me seem coherent).
old stuff http://ww.dancingbearaudioresearch.com/
if this post is edited -it was for punctuation, grammar, or to make it coherent (or make me seem coherent).
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- KVRian
- 710 posts since 17 Jan, 2005 from Amsterdam
Besides all those presets you don't own, browsing in general is a total disaster in AT4. How many times have you tried to open a preset from a sub folder of a sub folder of a sub folder of a sub folder just to accidentally move the cursor 2 pixels outside of that pile of sub folders and seeing them all collapse setting you back to square one?
- KVRist
- 174 posts since 2 Mar, 2017
I haven't had that problem.
I don't like where the "miscellaneous" presets are mostly outside the core package. I don't mind the menus for presets dedicated to custom shop/collection items (although I don't like that some of those require gear from additional packages.)
I ended up creating a folder to quarantine the presets that used components I didn't have. That way I don't have to click on presets that I can't use.
I don't like where the "miscellaneous" presets are mostly outside the core package. I don't mind the menus for presets dedicated to custom shop/collection items (although I don't like that some of those require gear from additional packages.)
I ended up creating a folder to quarantine the presets that used components I didn't have. That way I don't have to click on presets that I can't use.