Where is Middle C
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 14 posts since 28 Feb, 2017
I'm a bit confused. Bitwig shows C3 not C4 at 262 Hz. Is there a setting that I'm missing?
Thanks.
(Bitwig 2.5, Windows 10)
Thanks.
(Bitwig 2.5, Windows 10)
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- KVRian
- 623 posts since 4 Feb, 2017
According to Roland it is C4, according to Yamaha it is C3, according to International Scientific Pitch it is C4 (262 Hz). Only programmers seem to call it C3. Tell a musician that C3 is middle C, and they'll probably be confused.
- KVRAF
- 8837 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
I always considered C3 being the middle C. In the far history Roland lost that battle and nobody recognized it... Or in other words, the Midi world ignored the International Scientific Pitch. Maybe because musicians agreed to A 440 Hz which leads to middle C of 261.625565 (equal tempered). 262 would be out of tune...
- KVRist
- 446 posts since 17 Jul, 2015
As RichardC, perhaps you should inform Bitwig you are an authority on the matter and they should update their Middle C to Last C.
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- KVRian
- 909 posts since 7 Nov, 2017
It's just a DAW/Synth thing. What we need to understand is that "Middle C" is 261.63 Hz. Then you simply need to be aware of what your specific DAW (and each specific synth/sampler OR plugin) calls that frequency. For example, you might have one synth that displays a keyboard or an EQ plugin that lets you set frequencies by typing the note name. Every one of them will be different. There is no standard.
- KVRAF
- 8837 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
I just learned in "bach: automated composer's helper" the middle C is C5. Which makes sense if you think of the lowest Midi note as C0.
- KVRian
- 1038 posts since 17 Jan, 2005 from London
The situation is not helped by Moss' MIDI Monitor which displays Middle C correctly as MIDI note 60 but incorrectly as note C6...
Bitwig 5.2 beta 1 + Akai MIDIMix + Launchpad X + Presonus Studio One Pro 6.6
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4.1 Sonoma
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4.1 Sonoma
- KVRian
- 1038 posts since 17 Jan, 2005 from London
I was able to fix it as described in viewtopic.php?p=7934193#p7934193
Bitwig 5.2 beta 1 + Akai MIDIMix + Launchpad X + Presonus Studio One Pro 6.6
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4.1 Sonoma
Roli Lumi Keyboard x 2 + Universal Audio Apollo Twin X
Mac Mini M1 16GB/4TB + macOS 14.4.1 Sonoma