A New Dawn - Cinematic, Orchestral Theme
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 386 posts since 14 Feb, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ9q0HnrPnU
Someone told me to use some dissonant harmonies sometimes. I did so in this piece, but I've tried my best at being very careful with dissonance, because I'm new to this whole idea of using dissonant chords.
What could be done to improve the piece overall, and what do you think of it generally speaking?
If the track sounds like it lacks rythm or quantization, it is because I chose to humanize it manually, also playing the flute, oboe and piano myself, trying to make some "emotion". Did I succeed with this?
Someone told me to use some dissonant harmonies sometimes. I did so in this piece, but I've tried my best at being very careful with dissonance, because I'm new to this whole idea of using dissonant chords.
What could be done to improve the piece overall, and what do you think of it generally speaking?
If the track sounds like it lacks rythm or quantization, it is because I chose to humanize it manually, also playing the flute, oboe and piano myself, trying to make some "emotion". Did I succeed with this?
Last edited by mediumaevum on Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
My Feedback
Music - 9.5
Instruments - 9
Performance - 9
Mix - 8
Overall - 8.75
Comments: Well, I liked it. I would have ended it completely different. The ending is just way to predictable, cliched and uninteresting. But otherwise, I liked it. Didn't hear any "dissonance" but this piece didn't need it. Was fine with the harmony it had. But that ending. I was so disappointed because I was hearing exactly where this should have gone to really bring it home. You took the safe out and it was a let down. But musically, very nice. One of the nicer pieces I've heard here. Work on that ending.
Music - 9.5
Instruments - 9
Performance - 9
Mix - 8
Overall - 8.75
Comments: Well, I liked it. I would have ended it completely different. The ending is just way to predictable, cliched and uninteresting. But otherwise, I liked it. Didn't hear any "dissonance" but this piece didn't need it. Was fine with the harmony it had. But that ending. I was so disappointed because I was hearing exactly where this should have gone to really bring it home. You took the safe out and it was a let down. But musically, very nice. One of the nicer pieces I've heard here. Work on that ending.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 386 posts since 14 Feb, 2013
Thank you for your honesty.wagtunes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:18 pm My Feedback
Music - 9.5
Instruments - 9
Performance - 9
Mix - 8
Overall - 8.75
Comments: Well, I liked it. I would have ended it completely different. The ending is just way to predictable, cliched and uninteresting. But otherwise, I liked it. Didn't hear any "dissonance" but this piece didn't need it. Was fine with the harmony it had. But that ending. I was so disappointed because I was hearing exactly where this should have gone to really bring it home. You took the safe out and it was a let down. But musically, very nice. One of the nicer pieces I've heard here. Work on that ending.
Is this 8.75 out of what - 10, 20 or 100?
How would you end the piece? I'm getting really curious. I saw no other option than this one, so please share your ideas with me!
I regards to the mix, what can I do improve it?
I can't do much about the instruments though.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
8.75 out of 10 so very good.mediumaevum wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:45 pmThank you for your honesty.wagtunes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:18 pm My Feedback
Music - 9.5
Instruments - 9
Performance - 9
Mix - 8
Overall - 8.75
Comments: Well, I liked it. I would have ended it completely different. The ending is just way to predictable, cliched and uninteresting. But otherwise, I liked it. Didn't hear any "dissonance" but this piece didn't need it. Was fine with the harmony it had. But that ending. I was so disappointed because I was hearing exactly where this should have gone to really bring it home. You took the safe out and it was a let down. But musically, very nice. One of the nicer pieces I've heard here. Work on that ending.
Is this 8.75 out of what - 10, 20 or 100?
How would you end the piece? I'm getting really curious. I saw no other option than this one, so please share your ideas with me!
I regards to the mix, what can I do improve it?
I can't do much about the instruments though.
The mix could use a little more air, room, whatever you want to call it. It just seems a little stifled but not much. 8 is still a good mix. I'm just being picky.
As far as trying to explain how I would end it, that's hard to do. I'd really just need to do my own version of the piece and unfortunately I don't have the time.
But like I said, I really enjoyed it. My criticisms are nit picky at best.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Okay, I listened to it again and yeah, that ending sounded like "okay, let's just tack this ending on and be done with it."
Just falls totally flat for me.
Okay, you have this one part of the melody that goes B flat, A, G, F. It's repeated quite a few times during the piece. Melodically, that's how it should end as it's pretty much the main motif, IMO anyway. And of course the chords E flat (on the G), B flat (on the F). The B flat and A notes on whatever chord leads into the last two. And of course you have so many options there.
Now, how you end it arrangement wise, that's another story. There are so many ways you can go with it.
Solo Piano
Light Strings
Fuller Strings
Full Orchestra
I would have to experiment with the individual options to see what I liked the best.
In fact, I would probably rearrange the last 15 seconds or so of the piece. It kind of loses focus there. An opportunity to really bring this home is lost.
All of this is JUST my opinion so take it with the ever smallest grain of salt.
Just falls totally flat for me.
Okay, you have this one part of the melody that goes B flat, A, G, F. It's repeated quite a few times during the piece. Melodically, that's how it should end as it's pretty much the main motif, IMO anyway. And of course the chords E flat (on the G), B flat (on the F). The B flat and A notes on whatever chord leads into the last two. And of course you have so many options there.
Now, how you end it arrangement wise, that's another story. There are so many ways you can go with it.
Solo Piano
Light Strings
Fuller Strings
Full Orchestra
I would have to experiment with the individual options to see what I liked the best.
In fact, I would probably rearrange the last 15 seconds or so of the piece. It kind of loses focus there. An opportunity to really bring this home is lost.
All of this is JUST my opinion so take it with the ever smallest grain of salt.
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- KVRian
- 884 posts since 3 Jan, 2016
I think you did a pretty nice job on this although it sounds maybe a little to familiar and predictable. Like recycled Oh, Danny Boy.
Try to surprise the listener.
Try to surprise the listener.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 386 posts since 14 Feb, 2013
Is it better now? Try give it a listen again, thanks in advance!wagtunes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:46 pm Okay, I listened to it again and yeah, that ending sounded like "okay, let's just tack this ending on and be done with it."
Just falls totally flat for me.
Okay, you have this one part of the melody that goes B flat, A, G, F. It's repeated quite a few times during the piece. Melodically, that's how it should end as it's pretty much the main motif, IMO anyway. And of course the chords E flat (on the G), B flat (on the F). The B flat and A notes on whatever chord leads into the last two. And of course you have so many options there.
Now, how you end it arrangement wise, that's another story. There are so many ways you can go with it.
Solo Piano
Light Strings
Fuller Strings
Full Orchestra
I would have to experiment with the individual options to see what I liked the best.
In fact, I would probably rearrange the last 15 seconds or so of the piece. It kind of loses focus there. An opportunity to really bring this home is lost.
All of this is JUST my opinion so take it with the ever smallest grain of salt.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Doesn't sound like you changed the ending at all. Are you sure the new version is up there?mediumaevum wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:59 pmIs it better now? Try give it a listen again, thanks in advance!wagtunes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:46 pm Okay, I listened to it again and yeah, that ending sounded like "okay, let's just tack this ending on and be done with it."
Just falls totally flat for me.
Okay, you have this one part of the melody that goes B flat, A, G, F. It's repeated quite a few times during the piece. Melodically, that's how it should end as it's pretty much the main motif, IMO anyway. And of course the chords E flat (on the G), B flat (on the F). The B flat and A notes on whatever chord leads into the last two. And of course you have so many options there.
Now, how you end it arrangement wise, that's another story. There are so many ways you can go with it.
Solo Piano
Light Strings
Fuller Strings
Full Orchestra
I would have to experiment with the individual options to see what I liked the best.
In fact, I would probably rearrange the last 15 seconds or so of the piece. It kind of loses focus there. An opportunity to really bring this home is lost.
All of this is JUST my opinion so take it with the ever smallest grain of salt.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 386 posts since 14 Feb, 2013
I changed the ending by adding violins on top, and have a flute play some part of the melody. I also altered the piano ending.wagtunes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:04 pmDoesn't sound like you changed the ending at all. Are you sure the new version is up there?mediumaevum wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:59 pmIs it better now? Try give it a listen again, thanks in advance!wagtunes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:46 pm Okay, I listened to it again and yeah, that ending sounded like "okay, let's just tack this ending on and be done with it."
Just falls totally flat for me.
Okay, you have this one part of the melody that goes B flat, A, G, F. It's repeated quite a few times during the piece. Melodically, that's how it should end as it's pretty much the main motif, IMO anyway. And of course the chords E flat (on the G), B flat (on the F). The B flat and A notes on whatever chord leads into the last two. And of course you have so many options there.
Now, how you end it arrangement wise, that's another story. There are so many ways you can go with it.
Solo Piano
Light Strings
Fuller Strings
Full Orchestra
I would have to experiment with the individual options to see what I liked the best.
In fact, I would probably rearrange the last 15 seconds or so of the piece. It kind of loses focus there. An opportunity to really bring this home is lost.
All of this is JUST my opinion so take it with the ever smallest grain of salt.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
It's still the same cliched ending melody wise.mediumaevum wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:54 pmI changed the ending by adding violins on top, and have a flute play some part of the melody. I also altered the piano ending.wagtunes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:04 pmDoesn't sound like you changed the ending at all. Are you sure the new version is up there?mediumaevum wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:59 pmIs it better now? Try give it a listen again, thanks in advance!wagtunes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:46 pm Okay, I listened to it again and yeah, that ending sounded like "okay, let's just tack this ending on and be done with it."
Just falls totally flat for me.
Okay, you have this one part of the melody that goes B flat, A, G, F. It's repeated quite a few times during the piece. Melodically, that's how it should end as it's pretty much the main motif, IMO anyway. And of course the chords E flat (on the G), B flat (on the F). The B flat and A notes on whatever chord leads into the last two. And of course you have so many options there.
Now, how you end it arrangement wise, that's another story. There are so many ways you can go with it.
Solo Piano
Light Strings
Fuller Strings
Full Orchestra
I would have to experiment with the individual options to see what I liked the best.
In fact, I would probably rearrange the last 15 seconds or so of the piece. It kind of loses focus there. An opportunity to really bring this home is lost.
All of this is JUST my opinion so take it with the ever smallest grain of salt.