Ableton vs Bitwig - pros/cons?

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Trancit wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 2:08 pm
xbitz wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 1:03 pm
Trancit wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:18 pm ...
I more of a trancy guy... for me the most what matters are chords...their creating, handling and mangling... this is i.e. where FLS shines like the brightest star in the sky with it´s easy auditioning, it´s stamp tool, the chop, the arpeggiate, articulate and groove quantizing...respectively that everything is highly user customizeable via user defineable patterns (which no other DAW offers to this extend)...
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RapidComposer (https://www.musicdevelopments.com/rc.html light version is enough) has all the chord related features so not so easy to drop out BWS just because of this and BWS supports Push (which has also has a very nice chord sequencer thx for Moss ) what is missing from both AL/BWS that's the MIDI orchestration related features (articulation handling etc.) at least AL has http://www.computermusicnotation.com/#Maxscore :"MaxScore provides music notation in Max and Ableton Live! Now with support for Arrangement Clips and MPE!"
Something like Rapid Composer immediately makes me despair and creates in me a strong urge to throw the computer out of the window and join a monastery.

When I try to handle these programms they must be named "Very Very Slow Composer with tears in his eyes"

People liking something like this must have a different type of understanding or are simply very masochistically inclined....
^^^ are we talking about the same program :D dunno how it could be faster (not for composing, but prototyping)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6PthfeiuMM
scale, voicing, playing with ghosted generators and done can go to the host (even faster if play only with chord generator and some arp like Blue in the host instead)
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xbitz wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 5:20 pm ...
^^^ are we talking about the same program :D dunno how it could be faster (not for composing, but prototyping)
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Because of gazillions of options in this programm until I found out how something works I have written the chord progressions for the next 150 years myself...

For me the error lies directly in the idea of such programms... the "I do everything what you could ever imagine to do and therefore I offer millions of tools and submenus and am correspondingly confusing until you have studied rocket science and quantum physics" ...

Sorry but I stand with my statement: Rapid Composer would mean for me never touching anything music related again before I punish myself to spend the next 20 years to wrap my head around this...

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Fraggle wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 12:20 pm Bitwig is more stable, flexible and enjoyable - from Midi to audio to sound design , bitwig feels more polished and more deeply thought through. All Ableton has over bitwig is the beat repeat fx -

After More than a decade using live bitwig feels like moving from a Hyundai to a Ferrari
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Protoculture another+ beside Bitwig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gixhwSNyWQA
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