Soundtheory GULLFOSS computional auditory perception EQ
- KVRist
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- 265 posts since 25 Jan, 2016 from in my DAW
Just stumbled over this new gem on YouTube looking for NAMM news.
A new intelligent automatic equalizer that sounds pretty awesome in my ears at least on a few older tracks I mastered (currently testing the demo). So far I am really impressed with the outcome. A mixture of Dynamic Spectrum Mapper, SuprEesser and Soothe comes to mind...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8kWoltZh-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riCIaOSBv7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkkzdpIrsBU
https://www.soundtheory.com/home
A new intelligent automatic equalizer that sounds pretty awesome in my ears at least on a few older tracks I mastered (currently testing the demo). So far I am really impressed with the outcome. A mixture of Dynamic Spectrum Mapper, SuprEesser and Soothe comes to mind...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8kWoltZh-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riCIaOSBv7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkkzdpIrsBU
https://www.soundtheory.com/home
- Banned
- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
Strange name. Gullfoss = Waterfall
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- KVRist
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- 265 posts since 25 Jan, 2016 from in my DAW
As the guy in one of the vidoes stated: they gave the name of the waterfall for purpose (maybe because of the moving frequency graphics).
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- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
Ok. I didnt watch the videostedannemann wrote:As the guy in one of the vidoes stated: they gave the name of the waterfall for purpose (maybe because of the moving frequency graphics).
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- KVRAF
- 4999 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Simple demo download. Easy to hear the results; good for reducing colliding harmonics in live audio. Works as a mastering dynamics processor, most similar to the Plugin alliance DSM V2 but with a better GUI.
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- KVRer
- 29 posts since 3 Feb, 2018
It's not a dynamics processor. In fact, one of its main features is that it leaves the perceived dynamics entirely untouched. So it's not really comparable to DSM V2.Michael L wrote:Works as a mastering dynamics processor, most similar to the Plugin alliance DSM V2 but with a better GUI.
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- KVRist
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- 265 posts since 25 Jan, 2016 from in my DAW
Whatever it does behind the scene, the outcome is amazing. DSM, Soothe and now Gullfors, amazing times to live in.
After testing it on several difficult recordings and tracks, instant buy! Keep up the good ideas Andreas & team!
After testing it on several difficult recordings and tracks, instant buy! Keep up the good ideas Andreas & team!
- KVRAF
- 4999 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
I know. To me the existing effect it "works as" most "similarly" is DSM, but of course it's unique; feels like being in a noisy room and filtering out colliding harmonics to more clearly hear someone.atell wrote:It's not
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- KVRAF
- 10663 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
It's perhaps closer to frei:raum EQ than DSM V2. This new breed of EQ is indeed interesting, especially for the next generation of audio engineers. I have a feeling the way we mix things will change quite a lot. The next target will probably be AI mixing of some sort and expect a huge backlash from the established/older people (aka me..), as always.
EDIT: As I wrote on Gearslutz.. just tried the demo and indeed this thing is incredible. It's going to trigger a lot of sour people (and unfortunately result in a new generation of ultra-bright/brittle mixes). Awesome!
The added brightness to virtually all sounds is a bit worrying but easy to tame with the included controls. Other than that, it really does feel like the future (just like Soothe, frei:raum etc).
EDIT: As I wrote on Gearslutz.. just tried the demo and indeed this thing is incredible. It's going to trigger a lot of sour people (and unfortunately result in a new generation of ultra-bright/brittle mixes). Awesome!
The added brightness to virtually all sounds is a bit worrying but easy to tame with the included controls. Other than that, it really does feel like the future (just like Soothe, frei:raum etc).
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- KVRAF
- 2106 posts since 31 Dec, 2002 from London, UK
If this is similar to frei:raum eq, I can't wait to get my hands on it. So it's disappointing that us PC users have to wait up towards 6 months for this to be released.
- KVRAF
- 10663 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
.. well the difference is this one does the EQ shaping all the time in real-time, which indeed does sort of affect the dynamics, which brings it a bit closer to DSM V2 in terms of what comes out of the process (it all sounds a bit "compressed"/tamed in a way).
It's definitely a dangerous plugin and could easily be taken way too far. It has the same problems/benefits of soothe. Take it too far and you'll squash the character and life out of any source. Use it a tiny bit sparingly on difficult sources and you can get tremendous benefits.
Anything that needs to be pushed back in the mix.. sort of stapled on to the back canvas could greatly benefit from this process.
I'd like to see one more control for it though.. a "region" control that lets you specify where it does it's corrections. I don't always want the 15 to 20Khz region to have a boost.. nor the very lows. At the moment this is what it does to almost every signal. A bit more control of exactly what region gets processed would be very useful.
.. not every source needs to sound "good" to get it to mix properly. Sometimes dark+nasal/mid-heavy is the exact thing you need to get a source to fit in a mix, yet the removal of obviously ringing resonances is always beneficial. This is currently not possible with the plugin without using a second filter or EQ plugin after Gullfoss.
It's definitely a dangerous plugin and could easily be taken way too far. It has the same problems/benefits of soothe. Take it too far and you'll squash the character and life out of any source. Use it a tiny bit sparingly on difficult sources and you can get tremendous benefits.
Anything that needs to be pushed back in the mix.. sort of stapled on to the back canvas could greatly benefit from this process.
I'd like to see one more control for it though.. a "region" control that lets you specify where it does it's corrections. I don't always want the 15 to 20Khz region to have a boost.. nor the very lows. At the moment this is what it does to almost every signal. A bit more control of exactly what region gets processed would be very useful.
.. not every source needs to sound "good" to get it to mix properly. Sometimes dark+nasal/mid-heavy is the exact thing you need to get a source to fit in a mix, yet the removal of obviously ringing resonances is always beneficial. This is currently not possible with the plugin without using a second filter or EQ plugin after Gullfoss.
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- KVRAF
- 4999 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
^^^ Yes, a multi band version would be nice, as well as details on the pat. pending DSP algos for we old-fashioned folk. (I also compared Gullfoss with SoundBrigade, which uses a lot of non-linear phase IIR filters, and has tame and wake-up settings.) I really appreciate having this new EQ. I don't often listen primarily for the balance among subtle details, so it's been fun to find the type of sources where it shines.
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- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Not bad. Now that you applied it to some classic piano that's been studied to death for ages, how about dubstep or psy craziness? Here comes the challenge
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- KVRAF
- 2106 posts since 31 Dec, 2002 from London, UK
At around 1.00 min. mark on the Sounds & gear video they appear to show a range tool.bmanic wrote:
I'd like to see one more control for it though.. a "region" control that lets you specify where it does it's corrections. I don't always want the 15 to 20Khz region to have a boost.. nor the very lows. At the moment this is what it does to almost every signal. A bit more control of exactly what region gets processed would be very useful.