midi routing and audiorouting (+ effect routing )

[mutools]

Which piano?

Please explain in more detail what you want to do. Thanks.

[janamdo]

Which piano?

Please explain in more detail what you want to do. Thanks.

I do use the the information from one of the forum members his session and loaded this in MULAB ..see below

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Or a more simple way. Here, I downloaded it and made a session to show how works. It's much easier than explaining.

http://www.mediafire.com/?jynwagijyzd
Open the modular area to see how it's routed.
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Than if you open this session you see two tracks with the same midi chords progression ...and i do want to listen to the catania plug in what is genereting Midi events for the piano track ..but there is no piano sound heard and probably the midi routing is not correct

Or must the catania plug in in the first slot again en the piano in the second?

But perhaps i do miss a point?

Remark : how something simple become complicated ..brrr

[sorohanro]

Aha, got it... sorry, somehow my mistake.
See, Catania seems to reset every time you close/ open it. This is maybe because it's the demo and the "recall settings" is dissabled.
Just load the project, then load whatever piano preset in Catania. I used the "Classical Piano 06".

[Eggu]

I tried the example and I hear the piano sound, according to the arpegiator settings.
As second voice I hear the SGspace from Rack C.
It also works when you delete the connections in the "Modular Area" and simply put the piano in the second slot of Arpegiator-Rack.

[Nielzie]

At this point I would like to use Sugar Bytes Thesys, but I can't seem to work out how I record it's midi output..

In other hosts it's dead-easy to set up, but unfortunately in MU.LAB I can't get it to work. I hope Jo can make this a lot easier in M4.

Does anyone have any idea how to do it?

[ocmtime]

The question came up when i try connecting a midi arpeggiator plug in and( also a other composing vst tool) with a instrument track

what midi arpeggiator is that ?

[janamdo]

what midi arpeggiator is that ?

I cannot remember it anymore but after reading the post :
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i think this type of arpeggiator (Catanya)is not working on this way
for ableton it works as..

bye

[janamdo]

Yes Nielzie ..

I just installed the thesys plugin ( fantastic again made in Holland) and it has a internal synth and if you use the rectangular knob in the rightunder corner ( with the triangle on it )than there is a midi out and music!

bye

[Nielzie]

Yes Nielzie ..

I just installed the thesys plugin ( fantastic again made in Holland) and it has a internal synth and if you use the rectangular knob in the rightunder corner ( with the triangle on it )than there is a midi out and music!

bye

Hi janamdo. I know how to play the patterns with the internal synth and indeed there is music, but my problem is recording the midi out notes into the MU.LAB sequencer. It's nothing worth if I can't record it's midi output..

Do you perhaps know how to do that?

[janamdo]

I think it is the same problem as with the Catanya plugin
In mulab there is no module right now to record the midi out notes in the MUlab sequenzer ( it was discussed earlier with Jo here to construct a recorder for this .. you can ask Jo about this)
I think it is on the wishlist and it seems to me that it has a high priority to include this in the next Mulab version
You can use Hubi's LoopBack device v2.6-a for Windows for this right now ?

Note: you can study how Catanya plugin is set up ?

[Nielzie]

In mulab there is no module right now to record the midi out notes in the MUlab sequenzer ( it was discussed earlier with Jo here to construct a recorder for this ..

Ah ok.. That clears it up why I can't find a way in MU.LAB to achieve this. And I think Catanya is setup pretty similar to Thesys. Thanks.

Hope it's on the wishlist. It's on mine for sure

[jpumphandle]

As pointed out above, you can use a software midi loopback port to gain an external input that comes from an internal output. I use the MidiYoke virtual midi port many times to route midi data from one audio program to another. It can be used in MuLAb to send midi output from an ARP to a midi input that feeds a synth. MuLab will record the Midi input from the external port.

In midi setup the MidiYoke 1 is defined as both an output and an input.

Here is a snap of the session. I don't know why The Midi Input is not visible in the MUX, but it is there. The midi output track is selected to be recorded and the resulting sequence (synth track) is recorded as the output of the ARP. This should work for any ARP plugin that sends event output.

[Nielzie]

As pointed out above, you can use a software midi loopback port to gain an external input that comes from an internal output. I use the MidiYoke virtual midi port many times to route midi data from one audio program to another. It can be used in MuLAb to send midi output from an ARP to a midi input that feeds a synth. MuLab will record the Midi input from the external port.

In midi setup the MidiYoke 1 is defined as both an output and an input.

Here is a snap of the session. I don't know why The Midi Input is not visible in the MUX, but it is there. The midi output track is selected to be recorded and the resulting sequence (synth track) is recorded as the output of the ARP. This should work for any ARP plugin that sends event output.

Thanks for the workaround! Will try later on..

[sunhome]

That workaround doesn't seem to work for asio4all users as I seem to get midi feedback issues using loopbe30. Using asio4all, I can't set the input and output to be the same.

Recording midi from a plugin that generates midi is my #1 request. Sonar, Ableton, Cubase, and Reaper do record midi from Midi Generating plugins but I don't want to have to buy any of those [except maybe reaper] if I don't have to.

Regards, James

[jpumphandle]

That workaround doesn't seem to work for asio4all users as I seem to get midi feedback issues using loopbe30. Using asio4all, I can't set the input and output to be the same.

Recording midi from a plugin that generates midi is my #1 request. Sonar, Ableton, Cubase, and Reaper do record midi from Midi Generating plugins but I don't want to have to buy any of those [except maybe reaper] if I don't have to.

Regards, James

James ...
This has nothing to do with asio4all. Using Midiyoke, each virtual MIDI port is defined as an "OUT-->IN", so in the MIDI Setup, one of the midiyoke ports should be selected in both the Output and Input column in the Midi Setup dialog. The Audio Setup dialog remains as is. I will take a look at Loopbe30.