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rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:56 pm

Hey

just wondering.. I was listening to one of my uncles albums he's working on and the bass guitar was soooo perfect, boomy, whatnot. He mentioned something of a sub-exciter or something... i dont know what exactly did this, but I want to get this sound on every mix. I do own izotope ozone and stuff like that, wondering how i could get that "pro" sub-bass sound with any audio track?? is this merely achieved by EQ? by multiband compression? or some exciter?

RonC

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:46 pm

or how about using a synth tracker in a subwoofing low sine?

what do they do?

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:00 pm

Do you own Trash too? There are some great presets available from the Izotope web site.

EQ definitely helps, but things like distortion and compression can also help.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:15 pm

yup i own trash too.

which presets do you recommend

RonC

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:19 pm

I forget which ones I have used in the past. Just download a bunch and try them out. I usually record a loop and play it back while changing the presets to see which one I like the best.

james0tucson · Post by **james0tucson** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:30 pm

rpc9943 wrote:Hey
is this merely achieved by EQ?
RonC

It can be, but it's more a matter of cutting out pieces of the spectrum, than it is boosting the subbass. Also, it sounds counterintuitive, but you can get more perceived bass by putting a shelf that cuts off the really low sub range.

Let me get this straight -- you have access to the guy who is making the recording, and instead of asking him how he does it (or getting him to let you use it!), you ask KVR?

splattabreakz · Post by **splattabreakz** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:19 pm

arke · Post by **arke** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:38 am

Low Pass filter, 1 or 2 poles, with slight resonance, set at a pretty low cut-off frequency. Then, use a limiter (I recommend W1). Finally, make sure you highpass everything in the mix except for the kick drum and the bass (if you're using a parametric EQ, it should have a high pass option), at a low cutoff frequency, no resonance. If you add that all together, it'll sound rich and boomy because
(1) The bass itself is rich and boomy
(2) Theres nothing interfering with the bass sounding rich and boomy, except for the kick drum which will usually not bring too much trouble, depending on EQ settings

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:49 am

thx guys and my uncle was like "it took SO LONG, dude.....SO LONG." and he said all this hardware stuff he used, but I know software can do it better, his music is like funk city hsll big band reggae stuff...

or something

RonC

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:36 am

there is a sub harmonic exciter hardware unit but I can't remenber who made it. Its about £100. There is a free mda plugin called Subsynth that does something similair, but I find it a bit tricky to use well.

lex_strooder · Post by **lex_strooder** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:14 am

waves maxx bass can do the trick

lex_strooder · Post by **lex_strooder** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:16 am

rpc9943 wrote:but I know software can do it better

sorry to say but (IMO) HW is much better for bass

stash98 · Post by **stash98** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:06 am

and he said all this hardware stuff he used, but I know software can do it better

Hilarious.

jackson · Post by **jackson** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 8:15 am

I know a lot of people swear by Waves RBass, from the Rennaisance series. Same algo as the maxx bass(I think), but much simpler and cheaper.

PeterL · Post by **PeterL** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:28 am

Have you tried Voxengo LFMax ?

getting that sub-bass sound