Super 8 - New polysynth by Native Instruments
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- KVRian
- 987 posts since 7 Dec, 2017
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Hallo Spaceboy Hallo Spaceboy https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=701005
- Banned
- 39 posts since 12 Apr, 2024
But is it the case that “Kontakt is still very much here” (i.e., relevant)? It seems like NI is doing the absolute minimum to support Kontakt while continuing to rake in money on what are essentially glorified sample libraries (which NI disingenuously refers to as “instruments”). I’m specifically referring to the fact that NI seems incapable of creating a fully re-scalable UI. Only the browser in Kontakt 7 can be rescaled. Come on, the company has literally had years to get with the program. The excuses are starting to wear more than a little thin at this point. At the risk of sounding alarmist, the situation doesn’t bode well for the future of the company, IMO.
- KVRAF
- 13405 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
I, like a few others here, beta test several products for NI.
There is a reason why I specifically mentioned Kontakt.
Are they doing the stuff that I want them to concentrate on? no.
Do they now seem to be way more interested in Content rather than features.. I think so too.
But yeah without breaking any NDA I can honestly say Kontakt's development has not been abandoned at all.
rsp
There is a reason why I specifically mentioned Kontakt.
Are they doing the stuff that I want them to concentrate on? no.
Do they now seem to be way more interested in Content rather than features.. I think so too.
But yeah without breaking any NDA I can honestly say Kontakt's development has not been abandoned at all.
rsp
sound sculptist
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- KVRAF
- 35569 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
- KVRAF
- 13405 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
To be clear I am not suggesting other products are dead and just haven't been announced as dead, I was just saying that for all the stuff I know about, Kontakt has the most consistent sign of life.zvenx wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:06 pm I, like a few others here, beta test several products for NI.
There is a reason why I specifically mentioned Kontakt.
Are they doing the stuff that I want them to concentrate on? no.
Do they now seem to be way more interested in Content rather than features.. I think so too.
But yeah without breaking any NDA I can honestly say Kontakt's development has not been abandoned at all.
rsp
rsp
sound sculptist
- KVRAF
- 9933 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Just guessing, but they likely pay for development on a per project basis. So hiring a new team to rewrite things wouldn’t make sense where profits are concerned (especially considering who own NI now).
Does make you worry about NI software not named Kontakt… and pretty much all things NI if I’m being honest.
- KVRAF
- 9933 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 9698 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
That doesn't help anyone who appreciated the VST3 version. That's my point. They build up these new tools, release them to the public, then sometime after suddenly discontinue.
The only things that are really valued at NI are the staples of Kontakt and Reaktor. Everything else could be blown away at any point in the future. I don't like that method of operating.
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- KVRAF
- 35569 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
What would you guess is the reason for that? They sell like hotcakes, everyone uses them, and then they just discontinue it, all of a sudden, by a quirk of fate? Or is it possible that the VST3 version simply didn't sell, and that it was a failed development for NI, maybe just a hotbed to try something out, and it just didn't work, and they chose to end it?VitaminD wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:25 pmThat doesn't help anyone who appreciated the VST3 version. That's my point. They build up these new tools, release them to the public, then sometime after suddenly discontinue.
I frankly don't believe in quirks of fate.
Same with Massive X. As sad as it is, but, it seems like it simply wasn't a successful plugin for NI. You know what happens when you pull through all the unsuccessful stuff? You go bankrupt. Bummer.
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 9698 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
It tells me they don't have great visionaries there in leadership positions directing the product lineup. It tells me they likely have corporate suits or marketeers controlling these matters. And corporate suits don't know or care about the products, just that they sell. It also tells me they likely have very large overhead to fund...chk071 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:27 pmWhat would you guess is the reason for that? They sell like hotcakes, everyone uses them, and then they just discontinue it, all of a sudden, by a quirk of fate? Or is it possible that the VST3 version simply didn't sell, and that it was a failed development for NI, maybe just a hotbed to try something out, and it just didn't work, and they chose to end it?VitaminD wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:25 pmThat doesn't help anyone who appreciated the VST3 version. That's my point. They build up these new tools, release them to the public, then sometime after suddenly discontinue.
I frankly don't believe in quirks of fate.
Same with Massive X. As sad as it is, but, it seems like it simply wasn't a successful plugin for NI. You know what happens when you pull through all the unsuccessful stuff? You go bankrupt. Bummer.
A developer like Fabfilter or u-He stand by their products once they launch. No flash in the pan. Instead of throwing the pot of spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks, they seem to more carefully plan and release products with longevity in mind.