Waveform 13 coming
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- KVRian
- 1387 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
I think you're right, that sounds familiar.
Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and even Deezer, whatever the hell Deezer is.
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- KVRAF
- 4347 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
Is he still involved with JUCE? I thought he was more into Cmajor development.
the old free version may not work boots successfully on new generations of computers, instruments, and hardware
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- KVRian
- 1387 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
No idea on that one, but wouldn't surprise me.
Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and even Deezer, whatever the hell Deezer is.
More fun at Twitter @watchfulactual
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- KVRAF
- 2926 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy
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- KVRist
- 98 posts since 26 Aug, 2023 from Planet Earth
I guess their marketing department just decided April 1st is the best day for release.
- KVRAF
- 18607 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
As a matter of fact I am new to Tracktion Waveform. But I've been buying music software since the mid 1980's.cjayconrod wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:55 pm Is everyone in this discussion new users? Waveform has never released on the scheduled date. There are a lot of infrastructure things that have to be setup in their online store: new SKUs, creating the upgrade pricing options for existing users, etc.
Of course there are tasks involved when releasing any update but you factor them in to your release date. Sure things can go wrong at the last minute. But if you're saying that they never meet deadlines then I'm sorry that is just business incompetence or apathy.
I'm trying very hard to be a Waveform fanboi but missing a deadline that they hyped is not giving me a warm and fuzzy feeling about the company.
If you can't make deadlines then don't hype them.
I'm not going to abandon WF over this. I'm not mad at them, I am embarrassed for them.
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- KVRAF
- 18607 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Sorry but this is not on the end user. Disappointment comes from hyped expectations that are not met. That is on the company itself. Period.digitalboytn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:37 amPlay with what you've already got....
Relying too heavily on expectation can often lead to disappointment
I'm seeing a troubling trend where software developers are not being held to the same standards that any other businesses should be held to.
You don't go to a restaurant, get a bad meal with rude service and then praise them. You complain to the manager or you simply never go back. Otherwise they'll just keep serving bad food with poor service.
I'm not going to abandon either Waveform the DAW or Tracktion the company over this but I certainly don't respect them more because they set deadlines they can't make.
I don't think there is any way such an opinion could be controversial if one is able to think clearly.
I've said it a million times: Loyalty is good but blind loyalty serves no one.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRAF
- 23591 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Yeah, I'm with Teksonilk all the way here.
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 14 Feb, 2021
I agree. Unfortunately this will probably change me from an ‘instant buy’ on release to a ‘maybe buy’ after the 30 day trial expires.
Ryzen 5 8600G, 32GB DDR5, Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, Waveform Pro 13, Mixbus Pro 10, Reaper 7, Bitwig 5.1.
- KVRist
- 53 posts since 28 Nov, 2023
rant
Not one or two or three but FOUR! FOUR STONES!
Four stones, four crates - Zero stones, ZERO CRATES!
I... am... VERY... DISAPPOINTED!
/rant
I agree with Teksonik 100%
On a personal note... I can wait for the next release... I do not depend on the new features to pay my bills or ship my next EP.
The hype issue? let me put it like this... you're a small content creator, no early access to new software version, so you've built a schedule around Tracktion's announcements... They don't deliver... now that schedule is broken... is it the end of the world? No, it is not. Would you think twice next time you think of covering Tracktion's software?... You sure will.
I believe you get my point...
I want to support companies that develop for all three mayor platforms, Windows, MacOS AND Linux.
Waveform's workflow is IMHO one of the best.
so this time...
I'll give them a multipass
Not one or two or three but FOUR! FOUR STONES!
Four stones, four crates - Zero stones, ZERO CRATES!
I... am... VERY... DISAPPOINTED!
/rant
I agree with Teksonik 100%
On a personal note... I can wait for the next release... I do not depend on the new features to pay my bills or ship my next EP.
The hype issue? let me put it like this... you're a small content creator, no early access to new software version, so you've built a schedule around Tracktion's announcements... They don't deliver... now that schedule is broken... is it the end of the world? No, it is not. Would you think twice next time you think of covering Tracktion's software?... You sure will.
I believe you get my point...
I want to support companies that develop for all three mayor platforms, Windows, MacOS AND Linux.
Waveform's workflow is IMHO one of the best.
so this time...
I'll give them a multipass
Ryzen 5 3600 | 32GB DDR4 | Radeon RX 590 | Ubuntu 24.04 LTS - Windows 11 | Waveform 13 PRO | Bitwig 5.1 | VCV Rack 2 Free | Ardour
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- KVRist
- 98 posts since 26 Aug, 2023 from Planet Earth
Guys, am I correct:
1. the fact that they ingnore support tickets and start to fix just small and insignificant bugs of W12 just two weeks before the release of W13 [OK]
2. the fact they delay the release of W13 [Not OK, less loyalty]
1. the fact that they ingnore support tickets and start to fix just small and insignificant bugs of W12 just two weeks before the release of W13 [OK]
2. the fact they delay the release of W13 [Not OK, less loyalty]
- KVRist
- 53 posts since 28 Nov, 2023
Yes I believe you're correct.
Adding to #2 ... They've pushed the release of Dawesome's Myth from March 23rd to April "something"... because of a big release...
I'm wondering if something went wrong in the final build process trying to implement those latest bug fixes...
Ryzen 5 3600 | 32GB DDR4 | Radeon RX 590 | Ubuntu 24.04 LTS - Windows 11 | Waveform 13 PRO | Bitwig 5.1 | VCV Rack 2 Free | Ardour
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- KVRer
- 20 posts since 22 Feb, 2021
You shouldn't have given you the date. No one asked for it. But if you gave a date, you should try to do it.
The most important thing is that there is not even a word from the developers. Just the phrase "we're running out of time" would have sufficed.
The most important thing is that there is not even a word from the developers. Just the phrase "we're running out of time" would have sufficed.
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- KVRist
- 98 posts since 26 Aug, 2023 from Planet Earth
You are right, but the "reputation" of the devs is well known long before this.
So, don't be surprised.