Best or Cheapest Analog Saturation/Drive for Digital Synths
- KVRAF
- 2585 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
Well if talking about NI then Driver is also very good, though it can take some taming.
Of course decapitator is still an excellent saturator, and radiator and devil-loc from sound toys are both great
UAD have some excellent options, plus some more hidden ones e.g. you can push their channel strips that have pre amps very nicely, also the Moog Filter they have has an amazing distortion in its drive.
The ole Trash 2 can sometimes work wonders.
Then there are mix saturation plug ins from tone projects, voxengo, newfangled audio.
Plus newer things like Coldfire, Rift or Spectre
There's no shortage of ITB saturation, and if you e.g. add it in parallel with compression and EQ, there are many many tonal options....
Really it just comes down to learning how these things sound, how they can enhance sounds and mixes, and then finally using your taste to apply them.
Of course decapitator is still an excellent saturator, and radiator and devil-loc from sound toys are both great
UAD have some excellent options, plus some more hidden ones e.g. you can push their channel strips that have pre amps very nicely, also the Moog Filter they have has an amazing distortion in its drive.
The ole Trash 2 can sometimes work wonders.
Then there are mix saturation plug ins from tone projects, voxengo, newfangled audio.
Plus newer things like Coldfire, Rift or Spectre
There's no shortage of ITB saturation, and if you e.g. add it in parallel with compression and EQ, there are many many tonal options....
Really it just comes down to learning how these things sound, how they can enhance sounds and mixes, and then finally using your taste to apply them.
- KVRAF
- 10411 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Why the hell are we talking about software on the hardware forum? If you don’t know the difference between the two, you should just stay in the Instruments and Effects forums and you’ll be fine.
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- KVRAF
- 16626 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Measured. There is a steep filter right before 20K that causes a resonance bump (less than 1dB) starting at around 12K. It is completely flat before that. This explains why the Virus doesn't have issues with aliasing. However, it does not explain the Virus's overall sound quality.
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- KVRian
- 1082 posts since 27 Apr, 2016
I am thinking of a cassette deck being the answer to this one.
- KVRAF
- 16626 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Or cheap reel-to-reel. Roberts and Akai reel-to-reels can be found for under $200. Some can be used as tape echoes, too (just use a delay plugin on the send).
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- KVRAF
- 1953 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
For software: check out Korneff stuff, then Kush
For hardware: EHX Overlord is supposed to be good and available I stereo I preferred the Acidbox 3 to the Heat… cheaper, too. Also stereo.
For hardware: EHX Overlord is supposed to be good and available I stereo I preferred the Acidbox 3 to the Heat… cheaper, too. Also stereo.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4035 posts since 13 Jun, 2014
Maybe that's all it takes but I can't hear above 15K anyway.Uncle E wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 6:00 pmMeasured. There is a steep filter right before 20K that causes a resonance bump (less than 1dB) starting at around 12K. It is completely flat before that. This explains why the Virus doesn't have issues with aliasing. However, it does not explain the Virus's overall sound quality.
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- KVRAF
- 16626 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
You would still hear aliasing even if you can't hear above 15K (sorry if you already know). So that's at least part of what you're liking about it. As others said, the rest is the good coding.
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- KVRian
- 692 posts since 29 Sep, 2012 from Minnesota
Yes.Synthman2000 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 6:14 pm I am thinking of a cassette deck being the answer to this one.
And according to Junkie XL the Tascam fourtrack is the best. (source Youtube video)
- KVRAF
- 2585 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
Well, I suggested some pedals first of all. I have quite a few and they can be great sometimes as you can tweak them alongside tweaking the synth.cryophonik wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:34 pm Why the hell are we talking about software on the hardware forum? If you don’t know the difference between the two, you should just stay in the Instruments and Effects forums and you’ll be fine.
The fact is though, that any analog solution will likely have a limited choice of tones. Do you want it for guitar, synths, bass, drums, for general sound enhancement, for mixing, mastering... Nothing really covers it all.
So many good ITB saturation choices these days. There's no one size fits all and any analog solution won't work for everything.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4035 posts since 13 Jun, 2014
Another idea so far is to use a mixer that adds clean boost and distortion. For example this thing called Bestie does the job of a stereo mixer but adds boost via a NE5532 op-amp (whatever that is!). It's about £200 so not too bad.
https://bastl-instruments.com/instruments/bestie
https://youtu.be/KB7C3ATBCc0
https://bastl-instruments.com/instruments/bestie
https://youtu.be/KB7C3ATBCc0
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- KVRAF
- 16626 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
5532 is a dual opamp found in SSL 4000 consoles, as well as high fidelity pedals like the Love Pedal version of the Zendrive.egbert101 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:27 pm Another idea so far is to use a mixer that adds clean boost and distortion. For example this thing called Bestie does the job of a stereo mixer but adds boost via a NE5532 op-amp (whatever that is!). It's about £200 so not too bad.
https://bastl-instruments.com/instruments/bestie
https://youtu.be/KB7C3ATBCc0
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4035 posts since 13 Jun, 2014
It actually saturates and distorts over 12, according to the video, and its pretty damn nice. Pretty much a good option.
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- KVRAF
- 16626 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Yes, that sounds fantastic. The feedback is a cool feature, too.
- Beware the Quoth
- 33357 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
They're nearly 50 pence each, as well!Uncle E wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:34 pm5532 is a dual opamp found in SSL 4000 consoles, as well as high fidelity pedals like the Love Pedal version of the Zendrive.egbert101 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 5:27 pm Another idea so far is to use a mixer that adds clean boost and distortion. For example this thing called Bestie does the job of a stereo mixer but adds boost via a NE5532 op-amp (whatever that is!). It's about £200 so not too bad.
https://bastl-instruments.com/instruments/bestie
https://youtu.be/KB7C3ATBCc0
my other modular synth is a bugbrand