yeah, not really.penguinfromdeep wrote:Yeah... Acid house I guess. I think this comes mainly from the use of tb-303. But at the same time lot of the aesthetics were close to what was later called minimal
minimal techno
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penguinfromdeep penguinfromdeep https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=193898
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What do you think is the "real" minimal?
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dirty oscillators dirty oscillators https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122600
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we just told you (and by "real" i'm assuming you mean the originators of minimal techno):penguinfromdeep wrote:What do you think is the "real" minimal?
Sähkö Recordings
Basic Channel
Robert Hood
DBX
it's not the trendy glitchy stuff that everyone and their dog's been playing for the last five years...
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- 170 posts since 2 Mar, 2009
u will find what minimal means in any dictionary. as u may know it's also an adjective ....and can be used to describe anything (whether it's design or music or whatver).
if its techno made with few and esssential elements then it can describe itself as minimal techno without havin to pay any notice to all this genre nonsense... ppl pay too much attention to the retarded media tagging operated by american music media ....starting with "techno" itself .
if its techno made with few and esssential elements then it can describe itself as minimal techno without havin to pay any notice to all this genre nonsense... ppl pay too much attention to the retarded media tagging operated by american music media ....starting with "techno" itself .
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dirty oscillators dirty oscillators https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122600
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actually it's more the Europeans who have created all these sub genres for dance music. certain people on this side of the pond created House and Techno - then the music became big in Europa and tons of little sub genres were spun off...olicana wrote:u will find what minimal means in any dictionary. as u may know it's also an adjective ....and can be used to describe anything (whether it's design or music or whatver).
if its techno made with few and esssential elements then it can describe itself as minimal techno without havin to pay any notice to all this genre nonsense... ppl pay too much attention to the retarded media tagging operated by american music media ....starting with "techno" itself .
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penguinfromdeep penguinfromdeep https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=193898
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What I hear nowadays is not that glitchy anymore actually. More straightforward techy influences. Of course you shouldn't neglect the history but things shouldn't stay stagnant. Open mind! I really like Sähkö, actually they are my countrymates...dirty oscillators wrote: it's not the trendy glitchy stuff that everyone and their dog's been playing for the last five years...
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dirty oscillators dirty oscillators https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=122600
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yeah thank god that glitchy ubercoolische minimal trend is wearing off.
i agree with you, things shouldn't be stagnant. but as things progress, hopefully they'll continue to have substance and soul to them.
i agree with you, things shouldn't be stagnant. but as things progress, hopefully they'll continue to have substance and soul to them.
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- KVRist
- 83 posts since 23 May, 2008 from chicago
mnmlfrk wrote:operator or microtonic or attack seems to be tool of the trade here.
sine and white noise are your friend.
theres a particular something that got frozen reverbed at 2:04, i guess its one of the congas.
fx used are phaser and occasional short delay.
what is operator
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- KVRist
- 41 posts since 20 Oct, 2007
I gotta agree with you here... I'm from Toronto and from my experience I'd say around 90% of people in Canada and the US consider anything with a 4/4 kick drum either techno or euro.dirty oscillators wrote:actually it's more the Europeans who have created all these sub genres for dance music. certain people on this side of the pond created House and Techno - then the music became big in Europa and tons of little sub genres were spun off...olicana wrote:u will find what minimal means in any dictionary. as u may know it's also an adjective ....and can be used to describe anything (whether it's design or music or whatver).
if its techno made with new and esssential elements then it can describe itself as minimal techno without havin to pay any notice to all this genre nonsense... ppl pay too much attention to the retarded media tagging operated by american music media ....starting with "techno" itself .
Bugs me at times but the Toronto scene is looking pretty promising these days - and we've got the Guvernment so I get to see some solid acts coming through town now and then.
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I think its one of the stock synths (or possibly the only one) that comes with Ableton Live. I'm a cubase user though correct me if I'm wrong.housejunkie81 wrote:mnmlfrk wrote:operator or microtonic or attack seems to be tool of the trade here.
sine and white noise are your friend.
theres a particular something that got frozen reverbed at 2:04, i guess its one of the congas.
fx used are phaser and occasional short delay.
what is operator
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
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- 35298 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
OPERATOR is Ableton Live's excellent FM Synth.housejunkie81 wrote:what is operator
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- KVRist
- 118 posts since 3 Jun, 2008
not a stock synth, you have to purchase it additionally. goes way beyond drums, can be v-a-style or fm madness.revbeats wrote:I think its one of the stock synths (or possibly the only one) that comes with Ableton Live. I'm a cubase user though correct me if I'm wrong.housejunkie81 wrote:mnmlfrk wrote:operator or microtonic or attack seems to be tool of the trade here.
sine and white noise are your friend.
theres a particular something that got frozen reverbed at 2:04, i guess its one of the congas.
fx used are phaser and occasional short delay.
what is operator
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- KVRian
- 964 posts since 14 Jun, 2003 from USA
Check this out zypher. I did this like in 30mins. I kept it very simple interms of progressions. I think it gets the job done. ALL samples. Like I said, it's all about rhythmic percussion.
I guess it might be considered a bit of Tech-house also.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/m2lmqnnd2z2/BASSDRIVE - Minimalism.mp3
I guess it might be considered a bit of Tech-house also.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/m2lmqnnd2z2/BASSDRIVE - Minimalism.mp3
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- KVRAF
- 4327 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
dirty oscillators wrote: ... he did a lot for the local scene in Detroit and Windsor but i wouldn't call him exactly a "pioneer".
suuuuuure...
thats just funny!
he may not be the atkins/may generation type pioneer, but he is pretty close.
and really, considering where the scene was at in those times, relatively, ritchie was huge.
definitions are tricky though. i consider a lot of what he did to be techno or acid.
the music i mean.
anyway, +1 for stewart walker. awesome.
check out some record labels?-
playhouse
force tracks
perlon
pokerflat
mille plateux
eh.. first two anyway..