Not for me it doesn't. Every time I add a plugin category, I start typing, forgetting it doesn't focus, only to realise nothing has been typed in as the box isn't focused.
EDIT: Just tested it again, still doesn't work as expected. Steps to reproduce...
1. Open Plugin Manager.
2. Select a plugin.
3. In the Category section, click the + button.
4. Go to the bottom of the list and click on Add New.
5. The box is not focused for me. I have to then click on it to enter text into it.
MuLab 9.2.22 (CLAP plugin support)
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- KVRAF
- 2724 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
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- KVRist
- 171 posts since 9 Feb, 2016
Anyone experienced M9.2.22 freezing and then spontaneously closing, but only when using 3rd party reverbs units?
This is happening to me with the TSAR1 or the Brainworks' bx_rooms - both VST2 - when they have been running for a few minutes. TSAR1 also becomes inoperable (dead interface) in the run up to Mulab closing down on me.
I can run 9.2.22 with no issues using the built-in reverbs. I'm wondering if there's an algorithmic problem or a memory problem going on. This wasn't happening with M7 or M8.
This is happening to me with the TSAR1 or the Brainworks' bx_rooms - both VST2 - when they have been running for a few minutes. TSAR1 also becomes inoperable (dead interface) in the run up to Mulab closing down on me.
I can run 9.2.22 with no issues using the built-in reverbs. I'm wondering if there's an algorithmic problem or a memory problem going on. This wasn't happening with M7 or M8.
Aka Midland Synthetics
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- KVRian
- 1441 posts since 4 Oct, 2012 from Utah
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- KVRist
- 171 posts since 9 Feb, 2016
It's definitely just M9 this is happening with. I tested TSAR1 in both M8 and M9 this morning. M8 is fine. M9 is not happy with TSAR1 at all 
Aka Midland Synthetics
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12761 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
What an insanely complicated installation procedure for TSAR1. Never again.
Anyway, it's running now for a couple of minutes already in M9.2.22, tweaked all of its controls, all stable, not sure what i have to do to repeat the issue you're encountering.
And what exactly happens? Is there a log file?
Anyway, it's running now for a couple of minutes already in M9.2.22, tweaked all of its controls, all stable, not sure what i have to do to repeat the issue you're encountering.
And what exactly happens? Is there a log file?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12761 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Update: Ok, i now noticed issues after closing and reopening the TSAR editor.
I have a suspicion where this comes from and i'm afraid it's again something in the undefined gray zone between plug and host...
I need to think this thru a bit, as i'm unsure who is responsible for this issue.
I have a suspicion where this comes from and i'm afraid it's again something in the undefined gray zone between plug and host...
I need to think this thru a bit, as i'm unsure who is responsible for this issue.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12761 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Ok researched this a bit further and my conclusion is that it is something on TSAR's side.
TSAR returns 0 on effEditOpen which means it has some problem opening its editor.
It's there that the problems start. I've reported it to Softtube.
TSAR returns 0 on effEditOpen which means it has some problem opening its editor.
It's there that the problems start. I've reported it to Softtube.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12761 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Parallel to having reported the TSAR issue to Softube, i've also tweaked MuLab's code:
In the next update this kind of plugin error will be more strictly handled and alerted to the user, and at the same time MuLab will also call effEditClose after having called effEditOpen eventhough effEditOpen reported a failure. This seems to be better, at least in this case.
It's odd that TSAR reports the error on opening its editor upon plugin it into a rack slot, because after applying the tweaks mentioned above, you first will get an error alert about the plugin's editor error and no editor is shown, but when clicking the open editor button again then the 2nd time TSAR's editor does open normally. Curious for Softubes reply.
In the next update this kind of plugin error will be more strictly handled and alerted to the user, and at the same time MuLab will also call effEditClose after having called effEditOpen eventhough effEditOpen reported a failure. This seems to be better, at least in this case.
It's odd that TSAR reports the error on opening its editor upon plugin it into a rack slot, because after applying the tweaks mentioned above, you first will get an error alert about the plugin's editor error and no editor is shown, but when clicking the open editor button again then the 2nd time TSAR's editor does open normally. Curious for Softubes reply.
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- KVRist
- 171 posts since 9 Feb, 2016
Thanks for that investigation. I'm still concerned that both Brainworx and TSAR1 have cause a complete spontaneous shutdown of M9 but not in M8.
Aka Midland Synthetics
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12761 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
I've investigated the TSAR case and it's because TSAR reports an error upon opening its editor, technically upon effEditOpen.
Because of that MuLab 9 does not call effEditClose, which is logical, but it's probably the cause of these further problems you encounter. I've reported it to Softube and at the same time the next MuLab will handle the plugin error in a refined way, as messaged above. MuLab 8 was not as precise as MuLab 9 and did call effEditClose eventhough effEditOpen would report an error. That's why the issue slipped thru the meshes of the net in M8.
Because of that MuLab 9 does not call effEditClose, which is logical, but it's probably the cause of these further problems you encounter. I've reported it to Softube and at the same time the next MuLab will handle the plugin error in a refined way, as messaged above. MuLab 8 was not as precise as MuLab 9 and did call effEditClose eventhough effEditOpen would report an error. That's why the issue slipped thru the meshes of the net in M8.
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- KVRist
- 171 posts since 9 Feb, 2016
Thanks again 
Aka Midland Synthetics
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12761 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
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- KVRist
- 469 posts since 1 Dec, 2021
There is a bug in 3.0.73 - I use older version and have no problems.
viewtopic.php?t=581311&sid=11eb75d8b910 ... fa93770f3c
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 12761 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Thanks Robert, that indeed solved it. Strange that a popular plug like Sylenth isn't updated since that thread, more than a year ago. Anyway, thx again!
