The rules of music
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- KVRAF
- 10589 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
Dude f**k Fux.
He basically turned music theory in to music comformity
He basically turned music theory in to music comformity
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- KVRist
- 445 posts since 24 Apr, 2005
The first rule of fight clu... oh, f**k it.
The internet has had enough of that meme.
The internet has had enough of that meme.
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- KVRAF
- 3441 posts since 15 Mar, 2003
I think you will find that guys like these don't just,"pick it up and blow" even if they may think they do.Andywanders wrote:Rule No.1
"Just pick it up and blow it man."
They most likely learned lots of theory either directly or indirectly by listening to others and then internalized that knowledge to the point where they now can just pick it up and blow.
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- KVRAF
- 6519 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from UK
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- KVRAF
- 6519 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from UK
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- TopModernGeezer
- 2660 posts since 14 Mar, 2001 from Stuttgart, Germany
.. we have a very interesting case here at the moment while rehearsing a certain song. at one point of the song tobi and me sing together in a way that isnt really musically correct. we know this cause one of the keyboardists is a musicteacher and simply cant live with the way we sing this little part together. (both voices are singing a diffrent line). he says "thats not right! it cant be done like that", while the others and me say "hey, it may be "wrong", but it sounds good!" ..
putte
putte
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- TopModernGeezer
- 2660 posts since 14 Mar, 2001 from Stuttgart, Germany
.. the only thing i would care for would be that everybody´s got their Schnitzel right* ..daGuru wrote:Putte for President..... haha
*in the fridge
putte
- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
Ah, species counterpoint.
Here's the deal with Fux: Reading the authoritative way in which he makes his pronouncements can be by funny and frustrating by turns. But behind all of that 'do this because I told you to' attitude is a great deal of information.
It is indeed true that modern music is filled with things like parallel fifths (and more subtle infractions like hidden fifths), and no, one should not abandon or denigrate all of ones favorite artists on the advice of an eighteenth century pedagogue.
But if one wants smooth, flowing, independent musical lines, the pronouncements of said pedagogue become very useful. And if anyone were to actually subject ones self to the full rigor of old fashioned species counterpoint training, they would find themselves to be more, not less of a musician when they were done.
But if not, that’s fine, too. It's all about personal development.
Whatever works, as Bruce Lee said.
Here's the deal with Fux: Reading the authoritative way in which he makes his pronouncements can be by funny and frustrating by turns. But behind all of that 'do this because I told you to' attitude is a great deal of information.
It is indeed true that modern music is filled with things like parallel fifths (and more subtle infractions like hidden fifths), and no, one should not abandon or denigrate all of ones favorite artists on the advice of an eighteenth century pedagogue.
But if one wants smooth, flowing, independent musical lines, the pronouncements of said pedagogue become very useful. And if anyone were to actually subject ones self to the full rigor of old fashioned species counterpoint training, they would find themselves to be more, not less of a musician when they were done.
But if not, that’s fine, too. It's all about personal development.
Whatever works, as Bruce Lee said.
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- KVRAF
- 1811 posts since 18 Jan, 2005 from Lost in the blinding whiteness of the tundra
Yeah. The point that a lot of people miss is that the 'rules' are actually guidelines for producing a particular effect. Parallel fifths are a bad thing if you want to maintain the independence of your melodic lines, but if you don't give a monkey's about that then feel free to use them. But the writers of species counterpoint books assume that you want to produce 18th century style counterpoint, so they don't bother to keep putting in the conditionals, and people read this as a universal law and get annoyed about it...herodotus wrote: It is indeed true that modern music is filled with things like parallel fifths (and more subtle infractions like hidden fifths), and no, one should not abandon or denigrate all of ones favorite artists on the advice of an eighteenth century pedagogue.
But if one wants smooth, flowing, independent musical lines, the pronouncements of said pedagogue become very useful.
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- KVRian
- 1206 posts since 10 Apr, 2002 from Born, living and probably dying in Germany
I don´t care of music rules. The only thing that counts for me is that I want to enjoy a song, whatever rules are used or not.
So, if the following guy makes good music, I will enjoy it
but NOT this one
So, if the following guy makes good music, I will enjoy it
but NOT this one
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- KVRAF
- 6519 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from UK
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- TopModernGeezer
- 2660 posts since 14 Mar, 2001 from Stuttgart, Germany