UVI Percussion Factory released

[jbraner]

When I save a preset, the "save as" type should be .pfact - not *.*

Yup.
This may be related to the latest UVI Workstation version 3.1.11. I think it has a bug because it crashes Catabile (a popular Windows VST host) when trying to load/save presets in Percussion Factory as well as Asteroid. The previous version 3.1.8 did not crash with Asteroid.

Yeah - there's definitely something not right with the interface.
Saving/loading multis is fine.
The "save as type" box is wrong. It needs to save as pfact files - but not append .pfact to *everything*, only to an entry that doesn't specify the .pfact

[kvrmao]

... - but you want to use it for (effected) user samples? Maybe you could bounce the effected user sample - and re-load it?

I'll start a new topic soon where I talk about modulation of parameters to create more organic sounds. It's not something you bounce - that defeats the purpose and it just becomes a static sample again. Modulation of sound parameters with MIDI CC sent from a mod source (I use MIDIshaper by Cableguys a lot) has to be done in real time and in doing so, creates slight - or dramatic - alterations on every hit/instance of the sound.

[jbraner]

... - but you want to use it for (effected) user samples? Maybe you could bounce the effected user sample - and re-load it?

I'll start a new topic soon where I talk about modulation of parameters to create more organic sounds. It's not something you bounce - that defeats the purpose and it just becomes a static sample again. Modulation of sound parameters with MIDI CC sent from a mod source (I use MIDIshaper by Cableguys a lot) has to be done in real time and in doing so, creates slight - or dramatic - alterations on every hit/instance of the sound.

I'll follow that with interest - especially for this plugin

[kvrmao]

I have two requests: It would be much more helpful and fun if one could do the MIDI export for each sequence individually - and that it would possible to access the user samples from the internal samples browser, because drag & drop gets tiresome after a while. @ UVI : any chance that you can implement these two features?

Actually it's easy to export the MIDI for an individual sequence. All you have to do is to turn off or "disable" the tracks you don't want included in the MIDI. Soloing a track doesn't do the trick though, as all tracks that are not disabled will still show up in the MIDI. And of course all the instruments occupy a single note in a piano roll editor so it's very easy to edit/trim etc.

Saving of the user samples and sample settings is a definite need and putting that in the SOUNDS browser would make the most sense.

[AcidMoon]

User sample DND is still impossible in Falcon's own file browser. (Percussion Factory 1.1.2) In addition, I would like to see a DND feature in the Drum Designer. Come on!

[kvrmao]

User sample DND is still impossible in Falcon's own file browser. (Percussion Factory 1.1.2) In addition, I would like to see a DND feature in the Drum Designer. Come on!

Drag and Drop? I don't know about dropping samples within the file browser, but you can drop samples directly onto the sequences in Percussion Factory, either onto the circular sequences on the MAIN page or onto the sample names in the sequencer lanes on the EDIT page. Be nice to load them from a folder in the SAMPLE browser as well.

[AcidMoon]

User sample DND is still impossible in Falcon's own file browser. (Percussion Factory 1.1.2) In addition, I would like to see a DND feature in the Drum Designer. Come on!

Drag and Drop? I don't know about dropping samples within the file browser, but you can drop samples directly onto the sequences in Percussion Factory, either onto the circular sequences on the MAIN page or onto the sample names in the sequencer lanes on the EDIT page. Be nice to load them from a folder in the SAMPLE browser as well.

I already know what you mentioned. But none of them are more comfortable than DnD in Falcon's own file browser.

[Harry_HH]

UVI Percussion library suffers the same shortage than many other drum/rhythm tool/library, which I’ve purchased, namely the implementation of the groove/fill creation.

The groove making is useally implemented eithet via the midi groove bank or via the sequencer. There are some other tools such as the Euclidean beat machine (e.g. Soniccouture drums).

UVI Percussion Factory uses the sequencer for the groove generation. The implementation is rather clumsy. The rhytmic presets library should be much, much larger per kit piece. Who wants to use too much time for manual tweaking of the groove sequences for each kit piece from the scratch? Tweaking is, of course, necessary, but different presets give, for me anyway, stimulus, new ideas and alternatives. There need a well organized, huge rhytmic preset libraries.

An other shortage is the lack of the time signature parameter in the UI. After all, the time signature is most fundamental part of the rhythm creaton process.
E.g. making polyrhythmic patterns in the clever is way easier and more elegant, if you can choose and define the meter for each kit piece, preferably from the groove library organized by different time signatures.

So many missing options!
The UVI Percussion Factory has great features, but it could easily be 500 % better tool.
Why on earth the drum tool developers have a blind spot in the one of the most important areas in the beat making?

[sqigls]

good module though.
I personally don't use the UVI sequencer, on any of the drum packages. not because it's not good, but i have a (ehem) piano roll in my DAW. Does a pretty good job actually.

same for any and every drum package from every and any company.
or synths... the onboard sequencer is almost always a waste of time and (possibly) CPU or RAM for some users.

[jbraner]

I thought the sequencer(s) was a pretty good way to sketch out a basic beat - rather than wade through 20,000 MIDI files. Plus you have the magic wand (randomiser) - but I'm not sure how "intelligent" this actually is
I'm still coming to grips with this though

I have World Percussion Creator (InSession Audio) and I find that to be a little clunky to work with - but their Shimmer Shake Strike is a lot easier (for me anyway) to get my head around.

I guess we're all trying to find the best way (for each of us) to work with percussion instruments.

[Harry_HH]

”…rather than wade through 20,000 MIDI file…”

Nowdays there are plenty of effective ways to classify, organize, tag, AI search etc. help the user quicly find the desired item, in this case rhythmic pattern.

Even in my old BFD3, which includes several thausands midi grooves/fills (e.g. all the Groove Monkees), the serach is easy, even without any modern seach tool.

[jbraner]

Sure, it gets you to the conga riffs - but not particularly the one that's going to work for you at that time...

[Harry_HH]

Sure, it gets you to the conga riffs - but not particularly the one that's going to work for you at that time...

Why not? Depends on your library - and presets can give you even better alternatives and ideas, than your original ones.

[jbraner]

OK - this isn't meant to be an argument - so there are various ways to work with percussion libraries.
Our job is to find what works best for us - and of course presets help out as our starting points, then we adjust accordingly.
(that's why i've been moaning about presets for the last week)

[serge]

I realize this may not be possible, but one can dream right? And if I did, I would love to see more advanced key switch workflow helpers - like Audiofier Pragmabeat. I realize these are kinda different animals, but hoping UVI looks at their 24 Scenes and ability to not only store all settings for a percussive beat, but also ability to pre generate. Kinda like progressive intensity.