Yep, but they mean new things in new contexts, configurations, and aesthetics. In any case, for the music to be effective it needs to connect back to issues humans have had since creation anyway. Deeper themes are our relation to power, the natural world, our bodies, family, procreation, love, etc.
What is conventionality/novelty in electronic music?
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- KVRist
- 342 posts since 8 Sep, 2005 from Seattle
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- KVRAF
- 11174 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
^^^ but... Yoko Ono.
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1138 posts since 28 May, 2010 from Finland
Okay I am changing my opinion today.
Based on the discussion I think we can safely say that both of the following are equally respectable:
-Conventional entertaining music
-Novel entertaining music
Now the conventional is not novel, but it's still entertaining.
I picked this observation after realizing that I started a track that uses a dnb loop as a significant element. But that the loop is reasonably edited already and it's only 1 out of 13 tracks currently out of which the 12 others are entirely my own inventions.
The drum loop is a significant element, but the other elements change the whole so that the drum loop itself is not really much.
Also, in a sense I also recognize that one can be novel in the sense of being novel to yourself as artistry. I mean, even if it's not novel in the broad category, it's novel for yourself as an artistic achievement.
Based on the discussion I think we can safely say that both of the following are equally respectable:
-Conventional entertaining music
-Novel entertaining music
Now the conventional is not novel, but it's still entertaining.
I picked this observation after realizing that I started a track that uses a dnb loop as a significant element. But that the loop is reasonably edited already and it's only 1 out of 13 tracks currently out of which the 12 others are entirely my own inventions.
The drum loop is a significant element, but the other elements change the whole so that the drum loop itself is not really much.
Also, in a sense I also recognize that one can be novel in the sense of being novel to yourself as artistry. I mean, even if it's not novel in the broad category, it's novel for yourself as an artistic achievement.
- KVRAF
- 5564 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Not caring about genre or making “electronic music” would be novel in electronic music. Writing a good song would be novel in electronic music.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP