Tracking Apple Silicon Native Hosts, Plugins, Effects
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- KVRAF
- 3084 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
(New to Mac)
I find it really weird that there's stuff still not working on ARM after what, 5 years?
I find it really weird that there's stuff still not working on ARM after what, 5 years?
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- KVRAF
- 6640 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
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- KVRAF
- 3138 posts since 6 Nov, 2006
focusrite Red Plug-in Suite 2.0.3 updated to support apple silicon.
didn't see it posted here.. was updated last month.
didn't see it posted here.. was updated last month.
- KVRist
- 175 posts since 14 Sep, 2021 from Belgrade
Great news. i thought those plugins were dead
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- KVRist
- 279 posts since 23 Apr, 2009
Same shit for me. They didn't update it for more than a year already. Considering future transition to Native Access as I think. So I just stopped using it. Now installing PA plugins one by one with individual installers.
- KVRAF
- 2033 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Seattle, WA - USA
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- KVRAF
- 3084 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
Oh well then
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1930 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
Aside from it not being five years, there is very little that is not working on Arm. Almost nothing in fact. Rosetta runs Intel plugins on Arm, in almost all cases, faster than a native Intel Mac itself does.
But there are a massive number of plugins out there, and some developers have abandoned them, so there will never be an Arm update for them. Others, due to Rosetta, feel little need to rush it. Finally, most plugin developers are very small shops. Often just one guy. Not everyone is NI.
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- KVRAF
- 6031 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
How long do you think Rosetta2 will continue to be supported by Apple?
It’s definitely possible that it will be a permanent feature, since it isn’t an emulation layer like the original Rosetta. It translates the Intel ASM into Apple Silicon ASM and builds an executable on-the-fly the first time it’s run. Some of this is actually built into the processor, so that points to perhaps it being a more permanent functionality.
Also, since Rosetta2 builds an Apple Silicon executable the first time it’s run, that means it must save it somewhere. So that would seem that even if Rosetta2 went away, you would still have the translated executable so long as you haven’t wiped it. So I wonder if it’s possible to locate it and back it up so you have it indefinitely, regardless of what happens with Rosetta2 in the future.
It’s definitely possible that it will be a permanent feature, since it isn’t an emulation layer like the original Rosetta. It translates the Intel ASM into Apple Silicon ASM and builds an executable on-the-fly the first time it’s run. Some of this is actually built into the processor, so that points to perhaps it being a more permanent functionality.
Also, since Rosetta2 builds an Apple Silicon executable the first time it’s run, that means it must save it somewhere. So that would seem that even if Rosetta2 went away, you would still have the translated executable so long as you haven’t wiped it. So I wonder if it’s possible to locate it and back it up so you have it indefinitely, regardless of what happens with Rosetta2 in the future.
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- KVRAF
- 6640 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
My guess is exactly 5 years after the last Intel Mac was for sale new, since that's the law in Europe.
That would be starting June 5, 2023. The date the last of the Mac line up was converted to Apple Silicon.
- Banned
- 107 posts since 23 Mar, 2024
Well that’s all makes sense with the exception of devs that introduce their new apps in 2023/24 that still depend on Rosetta… WTF?!teilo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:33 pmAside from it not being five years, there is very little that is not working on Arm. Almost nothing in fact. Rosetta runs Intel plugins on Arm, in almost all cases, faster than a native Intel Mac itself does.
But there are a massive number of plugins out there, and some developers have abandoned them, so there will never be an Arm update for them. Others, due to Rosetta, feel little need to rush it. Finally, most plugin developers are very small shops. Often just one guy. Not everyone is NI.
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- KVRAF
- 5795 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
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- 107 posts since 23 Mar, 2024
There are still devs that introduce theier apps now that still rely on Rosettateilo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:33 pmAside from it not being five years, there is very little that is not working on Arm. Almost nothing in fact. Rosetta runs Intel plugins on Arm, in almost all cases, faster than a native Intel Mac itself does.
But there are a massive number of plugins out there, and some developers have abandoned them, so there will never be an Arm update for them. Others, due to Rosetta, feel little need to rush it. Finally, most plugin developers are very small shops. Often just one guy. Not everyone is NI.
- KVRAF
- 2033 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Seattle, WA - USA
Not many though.mdx4ever wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:24 amThere are still devs that introduce theier apps now that still rely on Rosettateilo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:33 pmAside from it not being five years, there is very little that is not working on Arm. Almost nothing in fact. Rosetta runs Intel plugins on Arm, in almost all cases, faster than a native Intel Mac itself does.
But there are a massive number of plugins out there, and some developers have abandoned them, so there will never be an Arm update for them. Others, due to Rosetta, feel little need to rush it. Finally, most plugin developers are very small shops. Often just one guy. Not everyone is NI.