Phrygian Dominant? Mixolydian b9b13? Spanish Gypsy?
Half - Aug - Half - Whole -Half -Whole -Whole (I think I got that right)
When does each name of the same series of intervals more suitably apply?
Thank you.
Phrygian Dominant? Mixolydian b9b13? Spanish Gypsy?
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- KVRist
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- 137 posts since 24 Jun, 2013
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 137 posts since 24 Jun, 2013
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FranklyFlawless FranklyFlawless https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=586325 - KVRian
- 877 posts since 24 Oct, 2022 from Abbotsford, British Columbia
Sounds like you answered your own question and then some.
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- KVRist
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- 137 posts since 24 Jun, 2013
Yes, there was a lot of information in that thread.
My question arises from repeated attempts to write something with the flavor of Spanish Gypsy music, resulting in songs that sound like they were written in the Balkans.
My question arises from repeated attempts to write something with the flavor of Spanish Gypsy music, resulting in songs that sound like they were written in the Balkans.
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- KVRAF
- 4147 posts since 10 Oct, 2002 from Nashville, TN USA
Definitely one of the loveliest sounds available to us. Done rightly, it just drips with emotion, IMO. 
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- KVRAF
- 25054 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
The name isn't anything. I can't even keep up with all the names for these things.
Personally I hate the names from jazz chord scale theory like Phrygian Dominant. Dominant is a single, simple harmonic function that might in a small portion of use cases apply to this thing. Phrygian has a flat 3, period, though. Is a mode, where no harmonic function is implied or necessary.
In terms of a Spanish feel, consider this. The typical old Andalusion progression Am - G - F - E gives as a scale if you must do, E F G G# A B C D. Neither G is 'the one', you have both.
(Also this does not translate to an A minor progression "i bVII bVI V", as obviously attractive an idea as that may be. the center is E.)
Personally I hate the names from jazz chord scale theory like Phrygian Dominant. Dominant is a single, simple harmonic function that might in a small portion of use cases apply to this thing. Phrygian has a flat 3, period, though. Is a mode, where no harmonic function is implied or necessary.
In terms of a Spanish feel, consider this. The typical old Andalusion progression Am - G - F - E gives as a scale if you must do, E F G G# A B C D. Neither G is 'the one', you have both.
(Also this does not translate to an A minor progression "i bVII bVI V", as obviously attractive an idea as that may be. the center is E.)
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- KVRist
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- 137 posts since 24 Jun, 2013
Assuming this is an example of the Phrygian mode of Ab Major
What is this?
I am interested in learning.
What is this?
I am interested in learning.
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- KVRAF
- 25054 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
something I had to stare at too long to know what notes are meant. Db looks as much like Eb as anything at my normal position.
it's a dominant something something by dint of the M3 and b7 by convention, maybe, if the target of a harmony using it is F.
It is not different than C Phrygian except for its major 3. Or, as I_have_already given you it's the full set of tones as horizontally organized in the Andalusian progression 'iv - III - bII - I' absent its 'minor 3'.
like, what is this: C Db Eb Fb Gb Ab A Bb? No answer of another's is going to affect me. I have no need to name it, names of things are inessential. I remember names rather poorly anyway and musical concepts quite well.
I don't know, what is that to you and why?
it's a dominant something something by dint of the M3 and b7 by convention, maybe, if the target of a harmony using it is F.
It is not different than C Phrygian except for its major 3. Or, as I_have_already given you it's the full set of tones as horizontally organized in the Andalusian progression 'iv - III - bII - I' absent its 'minor 3'.
like, what is this: C Db Eb Fb Gb Ab A Bb? No answer of another's is going to affect me. I have no need to name it, names of things are inessential. I remember names rather poorly anyway and musical concepts quite well.
I don't know, what is that to you and why?
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- KVRAF
- 6031 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
The 5th mode of F harmonic minor.D2sX9ek8w3 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:46 pm Assuming this is an example of the Phrygian mode of Ab Major
What is this?
I am interested in learning.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRist
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- 137 posts since 24 Jun, 2013
Hi,
Thank you for demonstrating empathy and kindness.
Thank you for demonstrating empathy and kindness.