Apple’s new T2 chip causing audio issues ?
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- KVRist
- 102 posts since 2 Sep, 2006
Wasn't that fixed with Mojave 10.14.4?
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- KVRAF
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
Probably. It was one of those things that was blown out of all proportion a few years back, and some people just don’t want to let go when they see an opportunity to criticize Apple. 
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- KVRAF
- 10613 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Somewhere near the Morgul Vale.
Iirc, it was a pretty significant issue.
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- KVRAF
- 3027 posts since 6 Nov, 2006
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- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
That depends on how many people it effected. For whatever reason, I never had an issue with my USB 2.0 Focusrite Scarlett, before or after the patch. Some people are saying the problem still exists, but I tend to think that it's more Dunning Kruger, where every glitch is more noticeable because people are hyper-sensitive to the T2 issue.
Also, Louis Rossmann, despite being a brilliant guy, loves to grandstand. But he's a Youtuber, so that's pretty much a given.
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- KVRAF
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
I don’t think the majority of people had issues, and as you say there was a patch at the OS level that made things go pretty quiet on this.
Based on the thread title I assume the OP has little knowledge of this beyond the YouTube headline
Based on the thread title I assume the OP has little knowledge of this beyond the YouTube headline
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- KVRAF
- 10613 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Somewhere near the Morgul Vale.
I remember a fair number of people who bought the latest Mini or iMac Pro gnashing their teeth about it over at lphelp. Still, if it's fixed it's one less thing to be concerned about should I need a new Mac.
“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
-Martin Luther King Jr.
-Martin Luther King Jr.
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- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
There are still people having the issue with Catalina. If memory served, it usually happened when the system hardware clock was being updated during a time sync. The "fix" was to disable time synchronization.
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- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
Why is it that I want to punch Rossmann in the face every time I see a still of him?
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 16 Jan, 2020
Bumping this thread because I couldn't find an answer: I know this issue is still present (although not as bad) in the last versions of Mojave and Catalina, but is anyone with a pre-2018 MacBook experiencing it? I read that it effects Hackintosh too, which surprised me because of the obvious lack of a T2 chip.
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- KVRAF
- 6113 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America
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- KVRAF
- 2313 posts since 20 Oct, 2014
Yes, if you are planning to use the notebook's audio out for making music, you should not buy a Macbook by Apple. Even the new 16 inch Macbook has such problems. It is caused by the heavy abstraction / emulation of a DAC inside the ARM t2 chip. Also latencies can't be better here, nothing is faster than a DAC in hardware (and much more reliable and cheaper, too).
Also regarding proper cooling, a Macbook is a very bad choice. Remember that your CPU may have to calculate a lot in audio, so it will get very hot, if you use a complex song setup.
If you want to surf in the web, post on Facebook, write emails, or buy stock, then a Macbook is the right choice for you though.
And no, none of these T2 chip problems were properly fixed. You simply will have issues with audio, which are caused by poor hardware design, so not fixable at all.
Also regarding proper cooling, a Macbook is a very bad choice. Remember that your CPU may have to calculate a lot in audio, so it will get very hot, if you use a complex song setup.
If you want to surf in the web, post on Facebook, write emails, or buy stock, then a Macbook is the right choice for you though.
And no, none of these T2 chip problems were properly fixed. You simply will have issues with audio, which are caused by poor hardware design, so not fixable at all.
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 16 Jan, 2020
Were you replying to me? Because I was specifically talking about using hacks or refurbished, pre-T2 MBs. I know the new hardware is crap, but I couldn’t tell if it was also a software issue.Hanz Meyzer wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:19 am Yes, if you are planning to use the notebook's audio out for making music, you should not buy a Macbook by Apple. Even the new 16 inch Macbook has such problems. It is caused by the heavy abstraction / emulation of a DAC inside the ARM t2 chip. Also latencies can't be better here, nothing is faster than a DAC in hardware (and much more reliable and cheaper, too).
Also regarding proper cooling, a Macbook is a very bad choice. Remember that your CPU may have to calculate a lot in audio, so it will get very hot, if you use a complex song setup.
If you want to surf in the web, post on Facebook, write emails, or buy stock, then a Macbook is the right choice for you though.
And no, none of these T2 chip problems were properly fixed. You simply will have issues with audio, which are caused by poor hardware design, so not fixable at all.
