No, it has that dreamlike type of sound overall. But maybe I am biased because of the UI. I have found that the UI (for good or bad) often affects my inspiration for creating certain types of sounds. When I look at Serum or Avenger I get tons of inspiration for creating aggressive leads and basses, but when I use Arturia synths I often think about creating more dreamlike sounds, such as pads, keys or bells.LoveEnigma18 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:18 amYou won't disagree if I add keys and bells sounds to that, would you?
Arturia Pigments 2 (Free Update): Now it's Granular
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- KVRist
- 166 posts since 20 May, 2016
- KVRAF
- 5892 posts since 12 Jan, 2018
Exactly, and the point about being UI based sounds like a good idea to me. It helps you in selecting the right synth fast thereby avoiding wastage of time. After all, that's one goal of UI - invite users to play it (in a certain way and for certain sounds). Not all synths can do all sounds equally great.Ohlson_M wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:49 amNo, it has that dreamlike type of sound overall. But maybe I am biased because of the UI. I have found that the UI (for good or bad) often affects my inspiration for creating certain types of sounds. When I look at Serum or Avenger I get tons of inspiration for creating aggressive leads and basses, but when I use Arturia synths I often think about creating more dreamlike sounds, such as pads, keys or bells.LoveEnigma18 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:18 amYou won't disagree if I add keys and bells sounds to that, would you?
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- KVRer
- 9 posts since 20 Dec, 2018
Hello, can anybody elaborate more on the CPU usage of Pigments 2? I have the 1st version so should be able to upgrade for free. But my computer is so so even with Pigments 1 - someone wrote here that the 2nd version is more efficient. Is that true? Maybe with those original engines but the granular stuff hits the CPU..? I assume that the new version overwrite the original, so I am hesitating with the update because of this CPU usage uncertainty.
Beside this I really like the features of this update.
Beside this I really like the features of this update.
- KVRist
- 428 posts since 23 Jun, 2012
Does pigment really have a good analog simulation? Should it sound like real hardware, with which hardware are the filters comparable? Is pitch drift emulated, how high is the upsampling? Are Juno and Moog sounds possible? Modular i'm fully served. But i'm still looking for a good hardware emulation with many possibilities. I have DIVA in sight, but maybe other VA can convince as well. But I'm looking for an all in one synth, not 50 different emulations.
- KVRian
- 815 posts since 11 Mar, 2010
By your description, I think you really should try XILS PolyKB 3.5 (or Syn'x)Faiky wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:12 pm Does pigment really have a good analog simulation? Should it sound like real hardware, with which hardware are the filters comparable? Is pitch drift emulated, how high is the upsampling? Are Juno and Moog sounds possible? Modular i'm fully served. But i'm still looking for a good hardware emulation with many possibilities. I have DIVA in sight, but maybe other VA can convince as well. But I'm looking for an all in one synth, not 50 different emulations.
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- KVRist
- 129 posts since 28 Feb, 2007
I don't have have Pig1 just demoing Pig2 and I think that CPU hit is quite high for my taste. For example: just two sources monopohonic sample playback with no filter and no FX is about 3%. In opposite of Rapid which take only 0,4% of CPU. I have very old Lynnfiled i7 so CPU matters for me.
- KVRAF
- 3054 posts since 25 Apr, 2011
Which daw do you use? Because, if i bridge the plugin, the cpu usage in the daw is going down by a couple %boriskarloff wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:37 pmI don't have have Pig1 just demoing Pig2 and I think that CPU hit is quite high for my taste. For example: just two sources monopohonic sample playback with no filter and no FX is about 3%. In opposite of Rapid which take only 0,4% of CPU. I have very old Lynnfiled i7 so CPU matters for me.
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- KVRer
- 9 posts since 20 Dec, 2018
I am working in Digital Performer 9.5.exmatproton wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:47 pmWhich daw do you use? Because, if i bridge the plugin, the cpu usage in the daw is going down by a couple %boriskarloff wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:37 pmI don't have have Pig1 just demoing Pig2 and I think that CPU hit is quite high for my taste. For example: just two sources monopohonic sample playback with no filter and no FX is about 3%. In opposite of Rapid which take only 0,4% of CPU. I have very old Lynnfiled i7 so CPU matters for me.
- KVRAF
- 4882 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
I can elaborate this much: Pig2 less than 40 % in any preset. Which is not low, but heaven, compared e.g. to Korg Odyssey’s up to 200 %.exmatproton wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:47 pmWhich daw do you use? Because, if i bridge the plugin, the cpu usage in the daw is going down by a couple %boriskarloff wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:37 pmI don't have have Pig1 just demoing Pig2 and I think that CPU hit is quite high for my taste. For example: just two sources monopohonic sample playback with no filter and no FX is about 3%. In opposite of Rapid which take only 0,4% of CPU. I have very old Lynnfiled i7 so CPU matters for me.
Win 10, 64 bit, i7, Ram 16 GB, Live 9 64 bit.
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- KVRAF
- 11520 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Huh?machinesworking wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:43 am I give U-He mass credit for not doing specific emulations, saves them the scrutiny and failed expectations.
RePro-1? RePro-5? Not only are those specific emulations there were no failed expectations around the accuracy. In fact, when I'd see comparison videos to the originals I was MORE impressed.
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- KVRer
- 19 posts since 23 Nov, 2011
Unfortunately not. I really wish there was a feature like this.
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- KVRist
- 199 posts since 5 Jul, 2004
Not exactly the same, but you can achieve something similar with granular mode and then modulating sample position. This way you can have different pitches at the same rate as slow or fast as you want, forward, backwards or any direction you can think of.
Fernando Carvalho
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- KVRist
- 129 posts since 28 Feb, 2007
I'm on Win7 with Reaper x64. I'm quite disappointed with CPU pigments 2 takes. Sometimes it's higher than Avenger. I'm using a lot of samples and I love pigments granular possibilities but for the CPU it takes I will maybe resist the €69 offer...
- KVRAF
- 4882 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
Sounds complicated. My philosopy in tweaking synths is KISS (keep it simple, stupid), the last letter referring to myself.Fernando Carvalho wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:05 pmNot exactly the same, but you can achieve something similar with granular mode and then modulating sample position. This way you can have different pitches at the same rate as slow or fast as you want, forward, backwards or any direction you can think of.
I rather concentrate on music and producing, less on reading synth manuals. What is not intuitively doable in 5 minutes, is too sophisticated for me.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
Does your wife know that?
(I guess she does...)
(I guess she does...)