Is Soundcloud still the best option for posting One-Synth-Challenge tracks?
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 952 posts since 30 Oct, 2013 from Scarborough
In light of the change to Upload limits on Soundcloud:
"On December 9, 2019, SoundCloud's introductory upload limit for free users will change. As a free user on a Basic plan you can upload a total of 3 hours of audio or 15 tracks, whichever comes first. "
I would like to get the views of OSC participants about the viability of continuing to use Soundcloud for our uploads, and ideas about other options, platforms etc. which may be available.
"On December 9, 2019, SoundCloud's introductory upload limit for free users will change. As a free user on a Basic plan you can upload a total of 3 hours of audio or 15 tracks, whichever comes first. "
I would like to get the views of OSC participants about the viability of continuing to use Soundcloud for our uploads, and ideas about other options, platforms etc. which may be available.
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- KVRAF
- 2330 posts since 20 Oct, 2014
Nope, I don't think so.
This looks like the alternative which comes the most close, but with better conditions of course:
https://audiomack.com
Also has comments.
This looks like the alternative which comes the most close, but with better conditions of course:
https://audiomack.com
Also has comments.
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- KVRist
- 470 posts since 25 Aug, 2016 from Helsinki, Finland
I'm personally fine with whatever, but the new Soundcloud policy is both very limiting and feels like a last grasp for some money before they run out again (like they did last year before they got a new loan). I wouldn't be surprised if Soundcloud just disappeared.
I'm using https://clyp.it/ for posting my stuff for now but honestly I'm not sure what's the best option.
I'm using https://clyp.it/ for posting my stuff for now but honestly I'm not sure what's the best option.
Viiri Audio https://viiri-audio.com/
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- KVRAF
- 2330 posts since 20 Oct, 2014
Also here https://audius.co/ , but as far as I can see, no comments.
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- KVRist
- 470 posts since 25 Aug, 2016 from Helsinki, Finland
I don't see Audius having a bright future.Hanz Meyzer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:50 am Also here https://audius.co/ , but as far as I can see, no comments.
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New startup Audius says its blockchain-based music streaming service is the solution that finally pays attention to indie artists’ needs. It’s also full of pirated material.
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- KVRist
- 292 posts since 20 Jan, 2019 from Germany
No. Soundcloud has horrible quality. Better use clyp.it.
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- KVRian
- 506 posts since 10 Nov, 2018
No, Soundcloud doesn't seem like a sustainable platform for OSC. I second https://clyp.it and https://audiomack.com.
Although, Audiomack seems like an identical alternative with no upload/stream restrictions, has commenting, playlist features and is probably sustainable too as it seems to be backed by some networks & labels. I tried it yesterday, I think the audio conversion is decent and there are no noticeable artifacts. (Sample linked here https://audiomack.com/song/the-exponent/lights)
Although, Audiomack seems like an identical alternative with no upload/stream restrictions, has commenting, playlist features and is probably sustainable too as it seems to be backed by some networks & labels. I tried it yesterday, I think the audio conversion is decent and there are no noticeable artifacts. (Sample linked here https://audiomack.com/song/the-exponent/lights)
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- KVRist
- 199 posts since 17 May, 2013
I had to look for a while to find the info of the changed upload limits first hand online ... it's well hidden in the SoundCloud FAQs --- not in their news, although it is breaking news.
I understand that online services must be provided by someone who wants a living, too. So it doesn't surprise me that living on a "free services bubble" won't work out eternally...
I might suggest archive.org. It supports likes and reviews (although I think you don't know WHO liked something). However ... they prompted me for financial help in the Wikipedia manner. No surprises here.
P.S.
archive.org is used for the Open Source Music Challenge last year and this year, that's how I came up with that...
I understand that online services must be provided by someone who wants a living, too. So it doesn't surprise me that living on a "free services bubble" won't work out eternally...
I might suggest archive.org. It supports likes and reviews (although I think you don't know WHO liked something). However ... they prompted me for financial help in the Wikipedia manner. No surprises here.
P.S.
archive.org is used for the Open Source Music Challenge last year and this year, that's how I came up with that...
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- KVRAF
- 35484 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Depends doesn't it? I don't know how exactly the OSC tracks are hosted. If they're all hosted by the OSC hosts themselves, of course, the free data limt will soon be exceeded. If those tracks come from the Soundcloud accounts of the participants, it will be less of a issue.
TBH, i don't know why peeps are so reluctant to pay for the service, when they spend so much money for their gear. Soundcloud has a massive amount of servers and bandwidth which has to be paid, it really doesn't run for free by itself... EVERY service you use will have to be paid the one way or the other. By advertising, by collecting and working with your data, or, by payments for the service.
TBH, i don't know why peeps are so reluctant to pay for the service, when they spend so much money for their gear. Soundcloud has a massive amount of servers and bandwidth which has to be paid, it really doesn't run for free by itself... EVERY service you use will have to be paid the one way or the other. By advertising, by collecting and working with your data, or, by payments for the service.
- KVRian
- 506 posts since 10 Nov, 2018
Not everyone of us spends too much on gear. Besides, OSC tracks are typically made with free tools/plugins and the SoundCloud subscription becomes sort of a $12 or $16 fee (depending on how you're billed for the subscription) to enter this monthly contest (which is fine) but should not be the case for a challenge of this nature. Also, many contestants don't enter this contest every month, nor make/upload music very often, making this cost overhead a bit redundant and a probable barrier to entry.
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- KVRist
- 199 posts since 17 May, 2013
Every contributor hosts their track in their own SC account. So technically you're right. As it is, everyone is responsible to either get a paid account or get under the upload limit (or get a second account). It's not OSC's problem. But there's people like me who now will think twice about participating because of this new hurdle. I'm way over the new limit with my track count. So in fact it might be a problem for OSC anyway.chk071 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:35 am Depends doesn't it? I don't know how exactly the OSC tracks are hosted. If they're all hosted by the OSC hosts themselves, of course, the free data limt will soon be exceeded. If those tracks come from the Soundcloud accounts of the participants, it will be less of a issue.
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
But you only need to pay if you exceed the track threshold. It’s business as usual otherwise.exponent1 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:51 amNot everyone of us spends too much on gear. Besides, OSC tracks are typically made with free tools/plugins and the SoundCloud subscription becomes sort of a $12 or $16 fee (depending on how you're billed for the subscription) to enter this monthly contest (which is fine) but should not be the case for a challenge of this nature. Also, many contestants don't enter this contest every month, nor make/upload music very often, making this cost overhead a bit redundant and a probable barrier to entry.
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- KVRAF
- 35484 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Ok, fair enough.Carl_saved wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:55 amEvery contributor hosts their track in their own SC account. So technically you're right. As it is, everyone is responsible to either get a paid account or get under the upload limit (or get a second account). It's not OSC's problem. But there's people like me who now will think twice about participating because of this new hurdle. I'm way over the new limit with my track count. So in fact it might be a problem for OSC anyway.chk071 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:35 am Depends doesn't it? I don't know how exactly the OSC tracks are hosted. If they're all hosted by the OSC hosts themselves, of course, the free data limt will soon be exceeded. If those tracks come from the Soundcloud accounts of the participants, it will be less of a issue.
I wonder if you can have multiple Soundcloud accounts.
- KVRian
- 506 posts since 10 Nov, 2018
The threshold is 15 tracks and a lot of folks over the past year or 2 have probably exceeded it already before this policy change, with or without having participated in OSC.Mushy Mushy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:55 am But you only need to pay if you exceed the track threshold. It’s business as usual otherwise.
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- KVRist
- 470 posts since 25 Aug, 2016 from Helsinki, Finland
Yeah I was definitely over 15. I don't want to support SoundCloud since I don't agree with their direction and value proposition, also I'm already paying for Dropbox and Clyp for storing and sharing my clips... so I'm keeping my SoundCloud account only for OSC for now, until/if it changes.
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