Bitwig 3.1 - are you upgrading?

[T71]

Waiting for comping. As a software engineer, I know this is not hard to implement, so it's frustrating to see such a useful feature being ignored for some extremely esoteric stuff ( eg micro pitch bending ).

[kdogg]

Bitwig 4 Life baby! Seriously, even with the current bugs and features needed to be added this a very revolutionary DAW. So many forward thinking features and so fast to find sounds - from the multiple browsers to Favorite / Smart lists for presets and fx / deep folder browsing for audio etc... Every other DAW starts to feel sluggish trying to find sounds, and then manipulate sounds - well Bitwig is top of the class there too.

[SLiC]

Bitwig 4 Life baby! Seriously, even with the current bugs and features needed to be added this a very revolutionary DAW. So many forward thinking features and so fast to find sounds - from the multiple browsers to Favorite / Smart lists for presets and fx / deep folder browsing for audio etc... Every other DAW starts to feel sluggish trying to find sounds, and then manipulate sounds - well Bitwig is top of the class there too.

Yup, I remember thinking when the new browser came out ‘no one wAs asking for this, what are they doing!’ Now I think it is one of the best features of bitwig and I wouldn’t be without it...so I trust the BW Devs...we have a lot still to come, but you can be sure they are working on it....they did a good jobs with groups, comping will come, but integrating that across both clips and linear is a bigger job than just the latter...

Live is on version 10 and still has no comping despite it being one of the most requested features...this was Abeltons response to why no comping. After 18 years of updates...

We're aware that certain kinds of users would like to see a comping feature in Live. But our aim with 10 was to deepen Live's strengths as a music creation tool, so many other creative features (such as multi-clip editing and Capture) needed prioritisation.

So don’t be disheartened BWS users, it’s probably not wilful neglect, it’s more likely a far more difficult task to integrate comping (elegantly) in to these sort of structures than people think...

[kdogg]

Bitwig 4 Life baby! Seriously, even with the current bugs and features needed to be added this a very revolutionary DAW. So many forward thinking features and so fast to find sounds - from the multiple browsers to Favorite / Smart lists for presets and fx / deep folder browsing for audio etc... Every other DAW starts to feel sluggish trying to find sounds, and then manipulate sounds - well Bitwig is top of the class there too.

Yup, I remember thinking when the new browser came out ‘no one wAs asking for this, what are they doing!’ Now I think it is one of the best features of bitwig and I wouldn’t be without it...so I trust the BW Devs...we have a lot still to come, but you can be sure they are working on it....they did a good jobs with groups, comping will come, but integrating that across both clips and linear is a bigger job than just the latter...

Live is on version 10 and still has no comping despite it being one of the most requested features...this was Abeltons response to why no comping. After 18 years of updates...

We're aware that certain kinds of users would like to see a comping feature in Live. But our aim with 10 was to deepen Live's strengths as a music creation tool, so many other creative features (such as multi-clip editing and Capture) needed prioritisation.

So don’t be disheartened BWS users, it’s probably not wilful neglect, it’s more likely a far more difficult task to integrate comping (elegantly) in to these sort of structures than people think...

Exactly, Bitwig has true multiclip editing - bounce in place - hybrid tracks - great CPU efficiency - deactivate tracks and offload ram - etc.... Ableton has warp marker quantizing and now more arrange navigation zoom options, that’s all I want from Ableton. Bitwig’s time stretching algo’s are even better, more variations, and more flexible as well!

[newtobitwig]

still clicks and pops. all those features of no use . It breaks my heart

[SLiC]

Waiting for comping. As a software engineer, I know this is not hard to implement, so it's frustrating to see such a useful feature being ignored for some extremely esoteric stuff ( eg micro pitch bending ).

Tell that to Ableton who haven't managed it after almost 20 years with 10x more programmers….! For the big '10' update instead of comping and in-clip editing (the 2 most requested features) they added a wavetable synth which to me is even less necessary in a DAW!

[Scotty]

My renewal period ran out in September... so I will wait for sale on the renewal licence and upgrade later to keep costs manageable. There are so many software updates out there now I have to pick and choose.

[newtobitwig]

Tell that to Ableton who haven't managed it after almost 20 years with 10x more programmers….! For the big '10' update instead of comping and in-clip editing (the 2 most requested features) they added a wavetable synth which to me is even less necessary in a DAW!

We should've realized by now that Bitwig's competition isn't with Ableton. What Ableton does or does not,doesn't matter. Track Comping is a necessary feature.

[T71]

Gonna hold off on renewing Bitwig sub that ran out on the 17th, get Renoise for $75. and hope for something compelling on the next Bitwig release. Pitch-12 is totally unnecessary for me.

[SLiC]

Tell that to Ableton who haven't managed it after almost 20 years with 10x more programmers….! For the big '10' update instead of comping and in-clip editing (the 2 most requested features) they added a wavetable synth which to me is even less necessary in a DAW!

We should've realized by now that Bitwig's competition isn't with Ableton. What Ableton does or does not,doesn't matter. Track Comping is a necessary feature.

Track Comping hasn't been a necessary feature for millions of Live users including many successful published artists. Live has dominated the DAW market without this feature, so clearly it is not necessary for everyone. Like Live, Bigwig bills it's self as ' music creation and performance software' rather than a standard DAW.

If Track Comping is necessary for 'you' (as it is fore me with many projects) then Bitwig may simply be the wrong type of DAW for that project...You would have been waiting and asking for almost 20 years if you were a Live user! I simply use 2 DAWS, if I could, only use one DAW, as I do a lot linear and live work (guitar/vocal etc) it would not be Bitwig which will almost certainly never be as good at that stuff as DAWS that specialise at it (although if they added ARA2 support they would be part way there )

I would like to see Comping put in as some sort of creative Live Looper (that also functions for standard comping) but I have no illusion that it will rival some other DAWS that are literally built around this as a primary function.

PS- What Ableton does seems to matter to a lot of people when its a feature from Live they want in Bitwig!

[Trancit]

... Live has dominated the DAW market without this feature, ...

Where did you get the crazy idea from that Ableton was ever even close to be able to do so???

Live never ever dominated any market:

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[anttimaatteri]

... Live has dominated the DAW market without this feature, ...

Where did you get the crazy idea from that Ableton was ever even close to be able to do so???

Live never ever dominated any market:

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lolz, the last 4 years...and its not even a sales statistics, as it looks like some random forum poll too. not even the amount of voters is mentioned, which makes it statistically absolute trash.^^

[Hanz Meyzer]

It is google ranks, how often an expression is searched for. Obviously "Bitwig" only very few in comparison to others.

[jonljacobi]

Comping is possible in any DAW and was done long before the handholding features showed up. It’s not even that hard in Live or Bitwig as you can just jump around the file with loop markers. Yes, it could be easier, but stop whining and saying stuff is necessary just because you want it.

Edit: dragging the audio in Bitwig.

[JHernandez]

I remember when Quick Swipe Comping came to Logic. Ah 2007, those where the days.