Any Vst Plugin that can simulate a Tx81z or do a decent Lately Bass
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2491 posts since 3 Dec, 2006
Hi Guys I hace been lurking for a while an just wanted help.. the title says it all!! Any vst Emus or presets for Synths that can properly axproximate the full sound of the Lately Bass as found on the Yamaha tx 81z
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- KVRAF
- 4534 posts since 17 Jun, 2013 from very close to Paris, France
On the DX100 the "Solid Bass" preset was very similar to the "Lately Bass" preset of the TX81Z.
So you can extend your searches to a DX100 emulation.
Tone2 Nemesis will fit of course...
There is also DiscoDSP Phantom.
There is also Oxe FM Synth (wonderful freeware).
Dexed (other very known wonderful freeware) won't fit : because it uses only the sine waveform, to emulate in a strict manner the DX7.
So you can extend your searches to a DX100 emulation.
Tone2 Nemesis will fit of course...
There is also DiscoDSP Phantom.
There is also Oxe FM Synth (wonderful freeware).
Dexed (other very known wonderful freeware) won't fit : because it uses only the sine waveform, to emulate in a strict manner the DX7.
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- KVRist
- 53 posts since 18 Nov, 2019
There is a Lately bass preset in U-he ACE that sounds exact and it's part of the factory library. A great synth to have regardless.
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- KVRist
- 340 posts since 30 Jun, 2009 from moon
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Each DAW has a different sound.
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- KVRAF
- 5716 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
There are screenshots that show how the patch is set up here on the TX81Z: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/showpos ... stcount=11
A lot depends on how closely you want it matched. The 95% answer is pretty much any 4-op FM synth. Use Dexed: the presets for Solid Bass etc are already there. The core of it is a two-op setup, with the same ratio and adjust modulation and envelope to taste. The variation and detail between these things comes in how the additional operators are set up with a fast attack and decay for the initial thunk.
One detail that's important to some people is that operator 3 uses a different waveform: it's a sine wave at double the frequency but only active for half of the wave period. So, you either want an FM synth that implements that waveform or use something that gives you editable oscillators or does pulsewidth-type wavetable manipulations (ANA2, for example, will give you the waveform, as will Serum, but you don't get enough modulators to do the full monty unless there's a trick I've missed).
In practice, it's a modulator of a modulator, so the impact of the half-length sine has isn't that great (though it is noticeable IME - and improves the punchiness of the sound) but it's up to you whether that matters. On top of that, you have the noise floor of the TX81Z itself to contend with, which you may or may not want. At that point, you might as well either get one or use a decent sample library.
A lot depends on how closely you want it matched. The 95% answer is pretty much any 4-op FM synth. Use Dexed: the presets for Solid Bass etc are already there. The core of it is a two-op setup, with the same ratio and adjust modulation and envelope to taste. The variation and detail between these things comes in how the additional operators are set up with a fast attack and decay for the initial thunk.
One detail that's important to some people is that operator 3 uses a different waveform: it's a sine wave at double the frequency but only active for half of the wave period. So, you either want an FM synth that implements that waveform or use something that gives you editable oscillators or does pulsewidth-type wavetable manipulations (ANA2, for example, will give you the waveform, as will Serum, but you don't get enough modulators to do the full monty unless there's a trick I've missed).
In practice, it's a modulator of a modulator, so the impact of the half-length sine has isn't that great (though it is noticeable IME - and improves the punchiness of the sound) but it's up to you whether that matters. On top of that, you have the noise floor of the TX81Z itself to contend with, which you may or may not want. At that point, you might as well either get one or use a decent sample library.
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- KVRAF
- 1819 posts since 10 Mar, 2004
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 12 May, 2016
If you have Ableton Live, there is a very good Tx81x clone made in Max for Live called Opfour. It’s the best lately bass I’ve heard outside of the Tx81z (which I also own).
Opfour is on Ableton’s packs website in the pack “Classic synths by Katsuhiro Chiba”
Preset is in factory presets (loaded from within synth) called Octabass
Opfour is on Ableton’s packs website in the pack “Classic synths by Katsuhiro Chiba”
Preset is in factory presets (loaded from within synth) called Octabass
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- KVRist
- 92 posts since 11 Jun, 2019
SOUL has a LatelyBass patch you can play with online.. no idea how good it is. you can play with it here: https://soul.dev/lab/?id=LatelyBass. It's basically an emulation of a TX81z sans a few features.
Eventually they will come out with a VST plugin to run SOUL code, so something to keep an eye on
Eventually they will come out with a VST plugin to run SOUL code, so something to keep an eye on
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david.beholder david.beholder https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=159839 - KVRAF
- 1866 posts since 13 Sep, 2007
