Free Host for some students
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 690 posts since 31 May, 2002 from chez moi
Thanks everyone. Just an FYI, my particular inquiry isn’t for a whole class but for only one student. But this is good info for other people and other circumstances.
Having been an ex-Sonar user and checking it out again after several years... I think it's interface is too complex for a student. I know it can be simplified. I like that it has a staff view, which I know my student is interested in. I don't know if Studio One or Tracktion have a staff view.
I've been playing with Studio One Prime for a bit and it seems like a good candidate. This studio may be purchasing a new audio interface, which would get them a copy of Studio One Artist if they go with PreSonus.
I'm a Mulab user so I'll think about that some more too. My student is a bass player and is into jazz and metal. I suspect they would be best served with learning about mixing channels, buses, sends, recording modes, effects, bouncing tracks, etc.
I'll also check out Tracktion and maybe even... gulp,.... Pro Tools.
Having been an ex-Sonar user and checking it out again after several years... I think it's interface is too complex for a student. I know it can be simplified. I like that it has a staff view, which I know my student is interested in. I don't know if Studio One or Tracktion have a staff view.
I've been playing with Studio One Prime for a bit and it seems like a good candidate. This studio may be purchasing a new audio interface, which would get them a copy of Studio One Artist if they go with PreSonus.
I'm a Mulab user so I'll think about that some more too. My student is a bass player and is into jazz and metal. I suspect they would be best served with learning about mixing channels, buses, sends, recording modes, effects, bouncing tracks, etc.
I'll also check out Tracktion and maybe even... gulp,.... Pro Tools.
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Obsolete236871 Obsolete236871 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=236871
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- 821 posts since 4 Aug, 2010
Just know that Studio One Artist + Prime do not allow you to use third party plugins, unless you buy some paid add-on. I prefer Cubase AI, which comes bundled with Steinberg hardware, in that regard. It also comes with the staff view / notation editor.
Also: If it's very important for you to be able to do bass recording with complex real time amp simulation & fx while playing, you should make sure your new audio interface is capable of low latency performance. Internal PCIe and Thunderbolt are generally considered faster than USB. Thunderbolt on PC is only available, if your motherboard (or laptop) does support it, while it's standard on Mac. If you get USB, get at least an USB 2 interface (standard nowaydays). My guess is that the new USB 4 standard will eventually deliver solid low-latency performance on all platforms, but there aren't any audio interfaces yet.
Here are two threads about latency on various audio interfaces:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-c ... -base.html
https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php? ... interface/
Also: If it's very important for you to be able to do bass recording with complex real time amp simulation & fx while playing, you should make sure your new audio interface is capable of low latency performance. Internal PCIe and Thunderbolt are generally considered faster than USB. Thunderbolt on PC is only available, if your motherboard (or laptop) does support it, while it's standard on Mac. If you get USB, get at least an USB 2 interface (standard nowaydays). My guess is that the new USB 4 standard will eventually deliver solid low-latency performance on all platforms, but there aren't any audio interfaces yet.
Here are two threads about latency on various audio interfaces:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-c ... -base.html
https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php? ... interface/
- KVRian
- 1353 posts since 31 Aug, 2007 from wales
cakewalk also has a great education site:
https://edu.bandlab.com/
https://edu.bandlab.com/
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- KVRist
- 48 posts since 27 Feb, 2019
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- KVRist
- 70 posts since 3 Oct, 2006 from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Yes, that's true.whyterabbyt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:13 pmDidnt they make the ability to use 3rd-party plugins a paid option, though?Kenmac wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:41 pmYes, Magix Music Maker free: https://www.magix.com/ca/music/music-ma ... usic-makerBlackWinny wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:57 pm Isn't there a simple DAW made free by Magix recently? (with enough features for a teaching activity on kids)
- KVRAF
- 4534 posts since 17 Jun, 2013 from very close to Paris, France
Then I bet they haven't got so many new users!Kenmac wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:05 pmYes, that's true.whyterabbyt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:13 pmDidnt they make the ability to use 3rd-party plugins a paid option, though?Kenmac wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:41 pmYes, Magix Music Maker free: https://www.magix.com/ca/music/music-ma ... usic-makerBlackWinny wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:57 pm Isn't there a simple DAW made free by Magix recently? (with enough features for a teaching activity on kids)
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- KVRAF
- 11093 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
This is weird. They request to have an iLOK account, and then request to directly link to that account? Why is that, if the software is free? Thanks, but no thanks.toddbooster wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:19 pmWell then, why not just go for the free version of Pro Tools?
https://www.avid.com/pro-tools-first
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- KVRist
- 48 posts since 27 Feb, 2019
Hmmm, I forgot about the iLOK, so I guess it's not free if you have to buy one. But if you have one already, I don't see it as a big deal. it's free as in beer, not free of the shackles of DRM.fmr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:59 amThis is weird. They request to have an iLOK account, and then request to directly link to that account? Why is that, if the software is free? Thanks, but no thanks.toddbooster wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:19 pmWell then, why not just go for the free version of Pro Tools?
https://www.avid.com/pro-tools-first
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- KVRian
- 669 posts since 3 May, 2004
You don't need an iLok key. You just need to install iLok License Manager and activate Pro Tools First.toddbooster wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:27 pmHmmm, I forgot about the iLOK, so I guess it's not free if you have to buy one. But if you have one already, I don't see it as a big deal. it's free as in beer, not free of the shackles of DRM.fmr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:59 amThis is weird. They request to have an iLOK account, and then request to directly link to that account? Why is that, if the software is free? Thanks, but no thanks.toddbooster wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:19 pmWell then, why not just go for the free version of Pro Tools?
https://www.avid.com/pro-tools-first
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- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
You can still use it after thoughJafo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:59 amFor up to 60 days, sure.deep'n'dark wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:28 am Why not also Reaper, you can always use it for free til you decide to buy it off: http://reaper.fm/download.php
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