Treating audio tracks as objects

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canadianlight
KVRist
153 posts since 24 Jun, 2011 from Canada, Toronto

Post Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:31 pm

jancivil wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:34 am
"Samplitude doesn't really require you cut them up."

Nor does Cubendo. The range is what's accessed in the picture. The part is intact. I do pretty minute range edits, scissors rarely and that's about the part boundary more than anything.
It does look like that's what the range editor does. Shame Cubase still requires the dongle.

Apparently many DAWs that are advertised as object-oriented aren't really at all.

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jancivil
KVRAF
19154 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:37 pm

I remember seeing it boasted about per Samplitude, but I think it's not unique except in the term for marketing. If I have the full meaning.

enroe
KVRian
1074 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:27 pm

canadianlight wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:45 pm
enroe wrote:What do you mean by "tag": Export that part as separate stem-
tracks? Or create a new object with only that highlighted wave-
parts?
Basically the equivalent of the annotate feature of word processors and pdf editors. You are allowed to pretty much highlight like you highlight text.

Actually it looks like many DAWs don't do that.
Yes, but after you highlighted a time interval over several tracks and you
changed these highlighted parts - you may come back to these "highlighted
parts" and change or corrected them again. Because that is the flow of
work. So if you need to come back later to your "highlighted parts" you need
something visual to identify these parts.

In many DAWs you have a "grouping feature" - that means that your "highlighted
parts" will become a group - and you can go to this group any time you want.
This is the way Cubase and Reaper work.

In Apple Logic it is very much more elegant: You just use a keycommand
"create folder" - and all your "highlighted parts" will be put into his
own folder.
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jens
KVRAF
19690 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:09 pm

enroe wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:19 am
DAWs that can do this are:

-- Apple Logic
-- Samplitude
-- Reaper

And Sonar and Studio One and of course Tracktion/Waveform too...

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inkwarp
KVRian
775 posts since 16 Jan, 2012 from UK

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:27 pm

the object editing in SAM is the most sophisticated there is. Reaper has a similar but not quite as powerful where it's just refered to as an 'Item'. within an item settings you can treat a clip in much the same way as SAM. You also have some basic version of this in Studio One where you can choose to place effects on clips of your choosing. In a sense all DAWS allow you to do something like this. When you chop up a clip each segment can be treated differently.. but SAM is the best example of this. I only wish the rest of the program wasn't quite as opaque and dated otherwise i would use it a lot more..

canadianlight
KVRist
153 posts since 24 Jun, 2011 from Canada, Toronto

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:58 pm

enroe wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:27 pm
canadianlight wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:45 pm
enroe wrote:What do you mean by "tag": Export that part as separate stem-
tracks? Or create a new object with only that highlighted wave-
parts?
Basically the equivalent of the annotate feature of word processors and pdf editors. You are allowed to pretty much highlight like you highlight text.

Actually it looks like many DAWs don't do that.
Yes, but after you highlighted a time interval over several tracks and you
changed these highlighted parts - you may come back to these "highlighted
parts" and change or corrected them again. Because that is the flow of
work. So if you need to come back later to your "highlighted parts" you need
something visual to identify these parts.

In many DAWs you have a "grouping feature" - that means that your "highlighted
parts" will become a group - and you can go to this group any time you want.
This is the way Cubase and Reaper work.

In Apple Logic it is very much more elegant: You just use a keycommand
"create folder" - and all your "highlighted parts" will be put into his
own folder.
Those 'parts' in these DAWs are chopped up audio tracks, not merely highlighted regions. This is not what I was asking for.

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