Treating audio tracks as objects

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canadianlight
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153 posts since 24 Jun, 2011 from Canada, Toronto

Post Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:12 pm

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=157397

Is this still true for Reaper? Which cross-platform DAW can do what the picture shows for ProTools?

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1099 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:19 am

That picture doesn't tell much.

There are some DAWs that are object-orientated - that means
you can treat parts in the arrange-view as "objects" and
apply effects to them, copy and reference them.

DAWs that can do this are:

-- Apple Logic
-- Samplitude
-- Reaper
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BertKoor
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Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:24 am

canadianlight wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:12 pm
Treating audio tracks as objects
That's a bit vague....
canadianlight wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:12 pm
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=157397

Is this still true for Reaper? Which cross-platform DAW can do what the picture shows for ProTools?
You mean this picture?
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No idea... Maybe Cakewalk, it's got some new features that might be usable to you. But Cakewalk is Windows only, not multi-platform. Which platforms do you need? Mac, Win, Linux?
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Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:26 am

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vurt
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Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:27 am

:lol:

jonljacobi
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1259 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:01 am

Track-ist!

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gentleclockdivider
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2282 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:10 am

I think he means separate effects , and pan, volume , pitch envelopes per object ( or events as most daws call it )
Yes reaper can do this
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canadianlight
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153 posts since 24 Jun, 2011 from Canada, Toronto

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:07 pm

BertKoor wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:24 am

You mean this picture?
Image
Yes.
There are some DAWs that are object-orientated - that means
you can treat parts in the arrange-view as "objects" and
apply effects to them, copy and reference them.

DAWs that can do this are:

-- Apple Logic
-- Samplitude
-- Reaper
I'm on a Mac right now, but would like to have Windows compatibility too. I was trying to highlight sections of audio tracks and tag them for someone in FLstudio and realized the DAW could only insert time markers for the entire project.

Does Reaper do it naturally or only through creative manipulations?

What about Cubase and Ableton?

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jancivil
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19263 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:38 pm

Cubase uses 'ranges' for that and you can Offline Process every edit, ie, recall specifically the edit and alter it or remove it. And yes, works in the project window.

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1099 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:42 pm

canadianlight wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:07 pm
I'm on a Mac right now, but would like to have Windows compatibility too. I was trying to highlight sections of audio tracks and tag them for someone in FLstudio and realized the DAW could only insert time markers for the entire project.

Does Reaper do it naturally or only through creative manipulations?

What about Cubase and Ableton?
Oh yeah, what you want to do is very basic - and almost every
serious DAW can do that.

What do you mean by "tag": Export that part as separate stem-
tracks? Or create a new object with only that highlighted wave-
parts?

But whatever you want, Logic, Cubase and Reaper can
do that. Ableton probably too.
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canadianlight
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153 posts since 24 Jun, 2011 from Canada, Toronto

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:45 pm

What do you mean by "tag": Export that part as separate stem-
tracks? Or create a new object with only that highlighted wave-
parts?
Basically the equivalent of the annotate feature of word processors and pdf editors. You are allowed to pretty much highlight like you highlight text.

Actually it looks like many DAWs don't do that.
Cubase uses 'ranges' for that and you can Offline Process every edit, ie, recall specifically the edit and alter it or remove it. And yes, works in the project window.
What happens if you forgot what you did this session and clicked save?

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jancivil
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Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:05 pm

canadianlight wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:45 pm
Cubase uses 'ranges' for that and you can Offline Process every edit, ie, recall specifically the edit and alter it or remove it. And yes, works in the project window.
What happens if you forgot what you did this session and clicked save?
The edited audio files are obvious in Audio Pool (see image). So that 'recorded' icon reveals it's been edited; select it and go to Direct Offline Processing, there it is.
Saving the project is in no way destructive; however if you bounce the event, replace it in the track and delete the file which edits refer to (in fact these are audio files in a directory called Edits), newer Cubase versions delete the Edits. Used to be they would remain and you could reconstruct it by pointing to the right files.
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canadianlight
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153 posts since 24 Jun, 2011 from Canada, Toronto

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:50 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7byFWCvLJT8

Is this what I'm expecting with most DAWs recommended here?

Samplitude doesn't really require you cut them up.

jonljacobi
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1259 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA

Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:24 am

Logic has per part processing. I normally just use a separate track.

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jancivil
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Re: Treating audio tracks as objects

Post Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:34 am

"Samplitude doesn't really require you cut them up."

Nor does Cubendo. The range is what's accessed in the picture. The part is intact. I do pretty minute range edits, scissors rarely and that's about the part boundary more than anything.

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