Fathom Synth Development Thread
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
I have two motherboards in service, with six operating systems
on various drives used at some point every week.
A Fathom Pro folder is on three of those systems.
Protection based on the motherboard is fine by me.
In the age of sailing the seas to discover new worlds,
a Captain heard the lookout yell, "Land ho!"
Soon thereafter, they sailed into debris from another explorers ship.
The captain immediately ordered extra watches covering all directions,
and readied their weapons and defenses.
Fathom is at the 'Land ho' moment, on the virge of offering
serious gpu power, excellent optimizations, and flexible sound system,
that will set it apart from many competitors, bringing a powerhouse synth
to computers of more modest specs, but having a supported graphics card.
Vigilance and defense are called for. I believe
the quality of the synth as it is now, portends well to the quality
of the next copy-protections. The developer communicates with us,
listening, discussing, and informing. Very few such people are left.
Support them while you can, and enjoy the Fathom synth as it
gains capabilities rare in the marketplace.
Cheers
on various drives used at some point every week.
A Fathom Pro folder is on three of those systems.
Protection based on the motherboard is fine by me.
In the age of sailing the seas to discover new worlds,
a Captain heard the lookout yell, "Land ho!"
Soon thereafter, they sailed into debris from another explorers ship.
The captain immediately ordered extra watches covering all directions,
and readied their weapons and defenses.
Fathom is at the 'Land ho' moment, on the virge of offering
serious gpu power, excellent optimizations, and flexible sound system,
that will set it apart from many competitors, bringing a powerhouse synth
to computers of more modest specs, but having a supported graphics card.
Vigilance and defense are called for. I believe
the quality of the synth as it is now, portends well to the quality
of the next copy-protections. The developer communicates with us,
listening, discussing, and informing. Very few such people are left.
Support them while you can, and enjoy the Fathom synth as it
gains capabilities rare in the marketplace.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Same for Starbucks customers! I know several who buy a morning coffee
every workday. Easily $100 a month, not counting the biscotti!
That is what the earlier morning coffee post was referencing. Fathom
and most quality synths are a bargain for all who love making music
Cheers
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 3 Dec, 2009 from Cologne, Germany
Sorry to write that, but these quotes are simple truisms for people who don't want to see and deny, that something is deeply wrong with the salesman customer relation in this business. I know there are a lot simple minds who swallow this junkFathomSynth wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:41 pm Yes, I realize everyone gets punished, and so do I because now I have to maintain a licensing system instead of zipping up release.
So my own time suffers a hundred times more than any one else's.
But, guess what, life is not fair. Seriously, it really isn't.
Do we all, honest people, suffer because a small percentage of people use hacked software, and so we have to contend with licence managers, yes we do, absolutely I agree with you. And I agree software licensing is complete and utter agony, and would not life be great if it was not necessary.
The problem is (I have discovered the hard way) that it is necessary.
The problem is that outside of KVR people that use software for free is not a small percentage.
Does it make sense to cancel the project because we are afraid of machine locked licenses? No! that would be crazy.
Just count your blessings that I will not be using a hardware USB system!
But you continue offending my and the common sense of equity.
If you think you must not be fair in a contract (Nothing else is the business between you and me) we signed due to selling and paying the software you and your allies withdraw the basis of lawful business.
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Ring that liberty bellmgw38 wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:27 pmThat is almost cute. Try 2800.FathomSynth wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:19 pm Please don't forget that I'm a musician myself and I have installed fifty plugins on my own system, and I know better then anyone the pain and agony of a licensing system which is either too complex or too restrictive or only allows one license.
Not many in Caracas have 2800, 50, 5, or even a decent breakfast
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- KVRist
- 363 posts since 7 Jan, 2007
As others have said, do whatever you feel you need to do to keep going.
As a Fathom Pro customer I have absolutely no problem with anything you have proposed, and I look forward to seeing the next chapter unfold
As a Fathom Pro customer I have absolutely no problem with anything you have proposed, and I look forward to seeing the next chapter unfold
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- KVRAF
- 7789 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
I only had Fathom mono on one system. Was planning to buy by the 29th as long as everything was going as smoothly as it seemed.
I'm sure this will be a great synth. Unfortunately the proposed system is one that I've had with others that always worked great on the install and then somehow gets lost by the system over time. (I'm assuming this is similar to the Korg and Karma methods?) Eventually, I end up not using them because of that. Not even on any of my systems anymore. So I'll just stop and delete mono now and wish you all the best.
And yes, we drink Starbucks almost daily and it runs me about $12 a month.
I'm sure this will be a great synth. Unfortunately the proposed system is one that I've had with others that always worked great on the install and then somehow gets lost by the system over time. (I'm assuming this is similar to the Korg and Karma methods?) Eventually, I end up not using them because of that. Not even on any of my systems anymore. So I'll just stop and delete mono now and wish you all the best.
And yes, we drink Starbucks almost daily and it runs me about $12 a month.
- KVRian
- 827 posts since 14 Sep, 2017
I'm out, but need to say that this new method is unnecessary and many companies are already doing well without these measures, with all respect, if you want to stop the crackers and think that this will create more legit users, that is questionable, The pirates will just go and continue doing their activities getting others even.
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Plain SB coffee in U.S. runs around $2 a cup, 21 workdays a month,
almost daily = 16? = $32 Maybe you're buying packages of
starbucks coffee grounds at Costco, or a drive-thru in Egypt?
That might (wisely) be around $12
The SB non-plain-coffee menu items are in the $3, $4, or $5 range.
To be fair, I try and get the tastiest deluxe synths at the
plain caffeine bean prices. The future Fathom 'coffee' will have
caramel, stawberry puree', creme from a live cow, and enough caffeine
to power a i9 laptop for two years
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- KVRAF
- 9130 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
There are code pirates that are more problematic than license pirates.JunSev wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 9:46 pm I'm out, but need to say that this new method is unnecessary and many companies are already doing well without these measures, with all respect, if you want to stop the crackers and think that this will create more legit users, that is questionable, The pirates will just go and continue doing their activities getting others even.
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- KVRAF
- 7789 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Yes, Starbucks Sumatra is about $4 a bag on sale at our local grocery store. Anyone that buys the daily brew from their store isn't very bright or at the very least, extremely lazy. I mean, what's easier than making coffee?glokraw wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 10:48 pmPlain SB coffee in U.S. runs around $2 a cup, 21 workdays a month,
almost daily = 16? = $32 Maybe you're buying packages of
starbucks coffee grounds at Costco, or a drive-thru in Egypt?
That might (wisely) be around $12
The SB non-plain-coffee menu items are in the $3, $4, or $5 range.
To be fair, I try and get the tastiest deluxe synths at the
plain caffeine bean prices. The future Fathom 'coffee' will have
caramel, stawberry puree', creme from a live cow, and enough caffeine
to power a i9 laptop for two years
It's just a bad analogy however it gets poured.
- KVRAF
- 18547 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
I might have missed the answer but I'll asked again does the new system require connecting every time the plugin or a project containing the plugin is loaded ? Or is it a simple one time connection for license authorization ?
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRist
- 334 posts since 19 Aug, 2014
No, it looks like it's a one-time connection, or if you do the C/R though the email method, no connection needed at all.
- KVRAF
- 18547 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
No offense but I'd like to hear it from the developer to be sure but if that's the case I'm fine with a one time connection if that's what has to be done. I don't do email on my studio computer so rather than transfer files just letting it connect one time would be easier.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe